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The Atheist Experience asks: Why are you a Christian?

(15:01) Matt Dillahunty and Jeff Dee eloquently and powerfully express their views to an unprepared Christian who began by suggesting they would burn in Hell. So many soundbites from Matt Dillahunty as he delivers his epic rant. Nicely wound up with a message from George Carlin.

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Filmaddict (849 days ago)

I'm sure there are many Christians which will go to hell too (if that's what you believe) and I completely agree with Levi.

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Guest: (849 days ago)

many people that fought for your profile picture deserve to go to hell. the dirty butchers apron

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Guest: (845 days ago)

Please explain this, or are you a coward as well as a racist and god-bothering inbred

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Guest: (843 days ago)

Racist? That is the flag of great britian. There is no race call british and the fact that you are upset by the comment means you know exactly what i meant by it.

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Guest: John Bull (842 days ago)

You talk pish - rule Britania!

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Guest: (842 days ago)

you talk bull. ye are even more hated than the U.S.

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Juniper (849 days ago)

The truth is in the last part - which makes it all a little redundant anyway. There is no dialogue to be had between atheists and those of faith. Not so much because they don't agree but because they aren't operating on the same plane of proof. I myself am agnostic but I came across this quote in a book [Gilead]: "'In the matter of belief, I have always found the defenses have the same irrelevance about them as the criticisms they are meant to answer. I think the attempt to defend belief can unsettle it, in fact, because there is always an inadequacy in argument about ultimate things. .... Nothing true can be said about God from a posture of defense.' That sort of summed up the problem with the argument to me.

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Guest: stevie g (848 days ago)

Well said, and nice quote who wrote that book?

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Guest: this is SPARTA (849 days ago)

Faith that life began spontaneously? What is the evidence that life appeared through natural processes? If we know the conditions required can we demonstrate the synthesis of life from inanimate matter? If not then we have faith that this must have happened. Lab experiments, so far, have not reproduced the 'creation' of life from non living elements but we 'believe' it must have been so. Dogmatism is not restricted to religion.

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Guest: (848 days ago)

"we 'believe' it must have been so?" Not really. The answer to "how did life begin" is "we don't know." That does not give you the right to just make up stuff and claim it is true.

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London1 (844 days ago)

You're an idiot. Scientists have created "life" from Amino acids in the laboratory. Get some knowledge before you come in here spouting your shit.

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Guest: greenman (842 days ago)

naturally they have created "life" from amino acids as these are the "building blocks of life" but where your statement falls down is that amino acids are made from organic matter so what created that matter?

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Guest: rob uk (842 days ago)

me too i tried to belive but same as you it has held the human race back for the last 2000 years (the worlds round burn the bastard) I was asked if i thouhgt goverments would ban churchs my replie was no they just ignore them now thank godn ha

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Guest: Dick Shonary (849 days ago)

"Faith" is simply a polite term for "Delusion". When all evidence and reason lead you to one conclusion, and yet you choose another - this is delusion. Pure and Simple.

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Guest: (849 days ago)

Well, in your second sentence you are right. And faith may be delusional. But what if it concerns anything beyond scientific evidence, such as moral values or anything beyond the reach of science (f.i. beyond anything an event horizon)?

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Guest: (849 days ago)

Moral values beyond scientific evidence? Why do you say that? Is it because believers always ask "where do morals come from?" but never listen to the answer "We evolved them. All social species have morals." Anything that has consequences in the real world can be studied and used in evidence. If god can't then it's because he/she/it/they has no real existence. This is where I came in.

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Guest: (848 days ago)

There was nothing said like: Morals come from religion. But: You have to believe in yours. As well as any statement on anything beyond an event horizon (such as a black hole or the big bang) is not scientifically testable and thus not subject to science (rather metaphysics). Its just that religion is one way to deal with things where there is no absolute truth (to the extent science can produce absolute truths) to be found and where you can only believe.

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Guest: (848 days ago)

morale has nothing to do with science or religion, it's that simple

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Guest: (850 days ago)

Idiots all around. A fine display of a strawman argument. As if the only choice were fanatic religious zelot-bigot or genial atheist.

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Guest: adko (849 days ago)

i noticed "strawman fallacy" is becoming widely used argument among christians. are you instructed about this somewhere? i see this in every discussion.

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Guest: (849 days ago)

Your argument would seem to be, "I see this all the time, therefore it must be wrong". That is a really remarkably irrational syllogism for someone pretending to be rational. Your assumptions about my religious convictions are equally blockheaded.

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Guest: (849 days ago)

i don't think it is wrong at all. why do you think, i think this? i am just curious how this word get in a vocabulary of one group (christians) in this short time. just like that and most christians are using it now in discussions. nobody was using it last year. i wonder where you all got it from. maybe some educational video?

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Guest: (849 days ago)

Methinks thou dost protest too much. And I'll try to make it as clear as possible for you - I am not a Christian.

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Guest: Just Passing (848 days ago)

That's hilarious. adko is asking a question and you use the strawman technique on him. You're either having a laugh or trying to punch above your weight.

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Guest: (846 days ago)

Thank you, I'm just glad someone noticed. I was afraid I was going to have to ask if he was instructed by someone to accuse people of being instructed by someone then deny I was implying anything.

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Guest: (850 days ago)

AS a half and half Christian Atheist the runner of this web site has more than once showed his beliefs by what is posted,he / she is picking only Atheist slanted opinions keep you religion or lack of it to your self. There is two sides to this and it is not being showed on this site ""bore me"

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Humpty (849 days ago)

That's because only Atheist slanted things are interesting. There *are* two sides, and one is stupid.

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Guest: (849 days ago)

you're wrong. There are far more than two sides, like fundamentalists, moderate christians, agnostics, atheists, even atheist christians.

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Humpty (849 days ago)

Easier to divide it into two sides: Those with imaginary friends, and those without.

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Guest: (849 days ago)

Easier is not right. You wouldn't dismiss modern physics, just because Euclidean geometry is easier, would you?

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Guest: Darwin\'s Radio (849 days ago)

Easier is sometimes right. If you're trying to work out the hypotenuse of a right angled triangle then I'd recommend Pythagoras' theorem every time. If you want to divide world views into two then it should be evidence based and faith based. There is no point arguing with those who, by definition, have no regard for evidence.

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Guest: London1 (849 days ago)

there are only 2 sides to everything. you are either right or wrong and everybody believes they are 1 and those who disagree with them are the other. That is the beauty of that God given gift we have that is the mind.

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Guest: Darwin\'s Radio (848 days ago)

Again I'd recommend the works of Pythagoras if you believe there are only two sides to everything... People who respect rational thought and the power of evidence will rightly acknowledge that there maybe a God/Gods (same goes for fairies and vampires BTW). Anyone who claims there absolutely is a God is fundamentally dishonest.

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Guest: A Christian (848 days ago)

does that not also mean that anyone who claims that there is absolutely not a God is fundamentally dishonest?

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Guest: Darwin\'s Radio (848 days ago)

Yes. However if you're proposing that the universe is created by a super being that needs no genesis then the burden of proof is yours. It is still reasonable to suggest that there is no god(s) as no one has been able to provide any evidence that goes beyond, "I kinda feel like there's a God". An invisible teapot has as much chance of being the creator; its impossible to prove its not. But you'd want some reason why you should believe me, right? You wouldn't just take it on faith.

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Guest: John (845 days ago)

As Bertrand Russell pointed out, just because you cannot see the invisible teapot, that does not mean it does not exist - if you are able to accept all the double negatives - which may - or may not - exist.

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London1 (844 days ago)

Stop using my name , you reject.

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Guest: London1 (843 days ago)

you stop using mine you imposter

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Guest: unthunk (848 days ago)

Some people believe truth can be found by looking to the past kind of like a child looking to a parent for answers. Some people have observed that truth is intangible and work toward a future that reveals it. Some people don't care about truth aslong as you believe what they want you to believe!

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Guest: God is make believe (842 days ago)

Truth - You talk a lot of pish mate

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Guest: Levi (849 days ago)

The guy on the left asks Mark why he dislikes the atheists - the same question could have been asked of anyone who threatened, bullied, shunned, persecuted, tortured, terrorised or killed another human being throughout the centuries in the name of their religion. It's only a matter of degree that separates them.

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Guest: Pedro (850 days ago)

Poor Mark. Hopefully he will reflect on this and move on in life but there are others (of all religions) who will continue to think like Mark. Unfortunately history has shown us that many are prepared to make people who believe differently suffer with their lives. The future is sadly likely to be no different. All in the name of religion.

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Guest: a Christian (850 days ago)

that is their choice to believe in God and if they want to they are entitled to do so. What would atheists do? Ban all religion?

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Guest: (849 days ago)

it is impossible. it's more about trying to educate people, that they don't have to be affraid of nonexistent being thus be in captivity of churches

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Guest: a Christian (849 days ago)

people are entitled to their beliefs. Trying to educate people? Is that not what the the Christian missionaries said they were doing a couple of hundred yeaars ago. Are ye not just a new form of the same with different idea's?

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Guest: (849 days ago)

not really. but this is for a longer discussion. basically the difference is, that religions as large groups of civilians can be (often are) dangerous for society. ...people are entitled for their beliefs as long as they are not spreading hate and doing harm to other groups of people (now think about widespread opinion of american christians on islam)

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Guest: A Christian (849 days ago)

i think you would find that Christianity is far more tolerant than Islam (but as usual the atheists attack Christianity) Also all large groups of civilians can be dangerous for society. Be they atheists, anarchists, religious or political.

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Guest: (849 days ago)

so why are you fighting against some (anarchism, islam, ...) and think only your group is peaceful? i don't like word atheist, it seem like a belief group controlled by someone. people without religion should live like science - thinking based on facts, not beliefs, critical of them self, always be ready to revise it's knowledge.

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Guest: (849 days ago)

How often have you heard of atheists 'preaching' their belief (or lack thereof) on street corners or knocking on doors to try and convert the homeowners? Atheists attacking Christians? I think not.

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Guest: A Christian (849 days ago)

the internet is the new street corner and with it you dont need to knock on doors. Just look how often your god Mr. Dawkins uses it to preach. Just read some of the previous comments made by atheists preaching their beliefs

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Guest: (847 days ago)

well, of the hundreds of christians I know, none has ever preached on a street corner, knocked on random doors to proselytise, or tried to lure me into church. Just because some do, it doesn't mean all do. Same goes for atheists, only a couple tried to convince me to abandon agnosticism for atheism.

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Guest: (849 days ago)

Ideas - religious as well as others - have always been abused. Even science has been a pretence for crimes (f.i. Unit 731). But religion can be incentive to good as well (think of many priests hiding jews in Nazi Germany). But if the same ideas can be used for good as for evil, you should rather argue against spreading hate, and not against religion in general.

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Guest: (849 days ago)

of course, you are right about abusing of ideas. priest hiding jews - this is questionable. people are doing good deeds without the necessity of religion or church. besides the german church was in fact supporting hitler and his intentions.

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Guest: A Christian (849 days ago)

Priests hiding Jews is a well documented fact told by Jews. And as you have brought up good deeds. Can you name any atheist charities for me?

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Guest: Jaded (846 days ago)

@A Christian. Google "Atheist Charities" and no I'd not recommend banning religion until we live in a post scarcity age. Till then it's too useful as a cheap and effective means of controlling large groups of people with no hope, usually not enough food and way too much fear.

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Guest: a Christian (845 days ago)

"post scarcity age"? i thought you atheists believed that us religious were the poor fools who believed in things that dont exist. As for controlling large groups of people, these people had gods before converting to Christianity or islam.

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Guest: truth (848 days ago)

i hate atheists like this. So completely self involved in their own opinion they cant see how blind they are. if they were truely wise they would see the hippocracy in what they say (particularly the one of the left). Anyone with a basic understanding of logic knows that all lines of enquiry must start with faith, faith in propositions, faith in methods etc. Without faith the entire structure of logic, language and experience come crashing down.

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Guest: (848 days ago)

If you were truly wise you would know the difference between hippocracy (ie government by horses) and hypocrisy (sophisticated lying).

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Guest: truth (848 days ago)

I'll assume you took it on faith that i actually meant hypocrisy despite writing the wrong word. My point was its nonsensical (and actually downright destructive) to go on some sort of crusade to rid the world of faith and replace it with reason and evidence. If anything most atheists probably have too much faith in the scientific method, trying to apply it to everything when its not really useful to do so.

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Guest: Bruce in Orlando (847 days ago)

Excellent point you make for Matt. You hate atheists based on your faith.

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Guest: Honolulu (842 days ago)

Faith is not a virtue - now that my internet connection has speeded up enough to watch the video and have heard this comment I think it should be the new atheist slogan.

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Guest: Geronimo (845 days ago)

ALL religions are (and always have been bunk)---let's be honest ! It's hocus pocus & abracadanra---No evidence at all

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Guest: (842 days ago)

lets learn when to close brackets

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Guest: (845 days ago)

Great site guys - keep it up. Religious people never have any real answers - just endless spouting of delusional gobbledegook. In the UK we have just had to fork our about �10 million in tax to accommodate state visit of the pope to Uk despite having a huge national deficit!!! Rory Connor UK

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Guest: greenman (843 days ago)

how many millions have ye being forking out to that German queen ye have despite having a huge national deficit.

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Guest: Oozoid (842 days ago)

Latest comment: Money paid to protect the Pope or support the Queen does not affect the national deficit if the money is spent locally and remains in the local economy. The question is whether the money might rather be spent on medical research, say. But then the same applies to money (and energy) wasted on broadcasting hundreds of brainless TV channels.

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Humpty (849 days ago)

When you understand why you reject all faiths but your own, you will understand why I reject all of them.

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Guest: FSM (845 days ago)

You are vewy vewy norty men for being so horrid to all these christians. vewy vewy norty indeed!

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Guest: Honolulu (842 days ago)

Religion is not harmless - it is dangerous stuff, and unchallenged religion is even more dangerous. Unchallenged religion leads to political absolutism and the abuse of power. It stifles creativity and freezes social progress. Its simple-minded moral strictures trap humanity in a straight jacket. Since religions always get their energy from suppressing and diverting the sex instinct they engender sexual guilt and personal unhappiness. Anyone who can challenge religion is a hero in my book.

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Guest: A Christian (842 days ago)

So that explains what went on in the soviet union and what is going on in China and north Korea. I have no problem with anyone challenging religion but what you have written is just complete and utter drivel

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Guest: (850 days ago)

Compelling viewing. There are points in there that I hadn't considered and that make the case for atheism stronger than ever. The moral is: Don't enter into a battle of wits if you are unarmed.

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Guest: (848 days ago)

I'm still waiting for a discussion among equals. These debates are always the same. You have one side prepared and practiced and the other not as studied in theirs. You always end up with one side or the other looking like an idiot. Lets have a interview of peers someday. That would be worth listening to.

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Guest: Alan (850 days ago)

you guys are mean. Take a child and beat him over the head with his own Bible. Shame on you Play with boys your own size

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Guest: (849 days ago)

Nobody forced him to phone in.

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Guest: (849 days ago)

If you don't want to play with the big boys then change schools! Anyway, I saw no beating happening there, only rationalised and thoughtful statements, backed by evidence. I've been beaten round the head with that piece of fiction my whole life as an atheist. It's about time we were allowed to talk back.

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Guest: EnglishRfags (850 days ago)

Stupid English!!!

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Guest: (849 days ago)

PLEASE buy a map and find out where England is! If you wish to damn someone's intelligence, please make sure your own stand-point is correct so you don't end up looking like an idiot.....ironically kinda similar to the conversation in the video.

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Guest: englishRdumbFags (849 days ago)

shut up you stupid english man. maybe he's being sarcastic. But the statement is a fact and his name is the truth

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Guest: (848 days ago)

English? Man? Stupid? Fact? Really? Please don't feed this troll either.

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Guest: e (848 days ago)

dumbest people in Europe the english

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Guest: John (845 days ago)

So why are you using the language?

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Guest: e (843 days ago)

So you will understand what i'm saying!

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Guest: wank (842 days ago)

because English language rules the world

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Guest: (842 days ago)

yeah yeah. ye english will all be speaking Arabic soon

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Guest: (849 days ago)

Please don't feed the troll.

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