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Redefining apathy, by David Meslin

Redefining apathy, by David Meslin

TEDTalks with Toronto artist and organiser David Meslin on local politics and the apathetic public. But why are the public apathetic about things that can have a direct effect on their lives?

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Guest: d0b4b (2430 days ago)
He had me until the heroism is collective part. At least he doesn't seem lazy or selfish.
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He had me until the heroism is collective part. At least he doesn't seem lazy or selfish.
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Guest: Jack (2430 days ago)
But he is right, one man never changed anything, its the masses that can bring change.
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But he is right, one man never changed anything, its the masses that can bring change.
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Guest: (2430 days ago)
No, the most important social changes have been brought about by development of technology, until recently these have nearly always been the work of one or at most a a few people. In any case the definition of a hero is a person (not a group) admired for his achievements or noble qualities. If you want a word to laud the achievements or noble qualities of groups I suggest you invent a new one rather than pollute the meaning of hero.
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No, the most important social changes have been brought about by development of technology, until recently these have nearly always been the work of one or at most a a few people. In any case the definition of a hero is a person (not a group) admired for his achievements or noble qualities. If you want a word to laud the achievements or noble qualities of groups I suggest you invent a new one rather than pollute the meaning of hero.
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Guest: Seth (2428 days ago)
Individual heroes may be important, but that doesn't mean they actually accomplish things alone. Real life heroes recognize that they need a group behind them to lift them up. A political leader standing in front of the capital is nobody until he has taken the steps to round up a crowd of people to come with him. The inventor toiling away in a garage doesn't accomplish anything until he seeks help and investment from the outside. One persona can be a catalyst for change, but they can't be the whole change - that's what I took from that part of the talk.
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Individual heroes may be important, but that doesn't mean they actually accomplish things alone. Real life heroes recognize that they need a group behind them to lift them up. A political leader standing in front of the capital is nobody until he has taken the steps to round up a crowd of people to come with him. The inventor toiling away in a garage doesn't accomplish anything until he seeks help and investment from the outside. One persona can be a catalyst for change, but they can't be the whole change - that's what I took from that part of the talk.
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Guest: (2427 days ago)
Latest comment: A catalyst is something which facilitates a reaction. If you want to draw an analogy from your examples the investors would be the catalyst but it's a bad analogy. A better one would be a seed and the soil in which it grows. It is right to focus on the seed and not the soil for though the seed could not grow without the soil the soil is worse than useless without the seed, producing only weeds. This fellow's whole speech strikes me as a piece of gross flattery.
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Latest comment: A catalyst is something which facilitates a reaction. If you want to draw an analogy from your examples the investors would be the catalyst but it's a bad analogy. A better one would be a seed and the soil in which it grows. It is right to focus on the seed and not the soil for though the seed could not grow without the soil the soil is worse than useless without the seed, producing only weeds. This fellow's whole speech strikes me as a piece of gross flattery.
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Guest: Bemum (2430 days ago)
'To solve a problem, you must know what the problem is.' That sort of thinking will get you in heaps of trouble with the powers-that-be, son.
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'To solve a problem, you must know what the problem is.' That sort of thinking will get you in heaps of trouble with the powers-that-be, son.
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Guest: (2430 days ago)
It might do, but people like this guy, who isn't afraid to stick his head above the parapet, make us see that we actually CAN change things. Many small changes add up and there's nothing wrong with pointing out how to effect small changes.
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It might do, but people like this guy, who isn't afraid to stick his head above the parapet, make us see that we actually CAN change things. Many small changes add up and there's nothing wrong with pointing out how to effect small changes.
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Guest: The Maldonian (2430 days ago)
And if we redefine red as blue, then all things red will be blue. Brilliant.
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And if we redefine red as blue, then all things red will be blue. Brilliant.
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Guest: (2430 days ago)
His premise is people are smart enough to make decisions on public policy and so it would be better if they had greater power and if more participated. I just don't see any evidence for this. For example 20% of Canadians smoke cigarettes 61% are at a medically unhealthy weight. Many farm animals are not stupid enough to poison themselves or eat themselves to death. If you got more input from the public you would likely just get a different set of problems.
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His premise is people are smart enough to make decisions on public policy and so it would be better if they had greater power and if more participated. I just don't see any evidence for this. For example 20% of Canadians smoke cigarettes 61% are at a medically unhealthy weight. Many farm animals are not stupid enough to poison themselves or eat themselves to death. If you got more input from the public you would likely just get a different set of problems.
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TheBob TheBob (2430 days ago)
Great stuff! How do I get in touch with him?
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Great stuff! How do I get in touch with him?
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