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High-speed rail Newsnight discussion

High-speed rail Newsnight discussion

(12:22) Phase one of the £32 billion high-speed rail network (HS2) has just been approved. This Newsnight discussion was from July 2011, but the same question arises. Is the future high speed trains or high speed broadband? The answer is almost certainly both.

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Guest: guest (2141 days ago)
Who is paying for all this?
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TheBob TheBob (2140 days ago)
At 1000 per household, I'd say we are. - and an easy way to boost capacity is to reduce the space taken up by 1st Class
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At 1000 per household, I'd say we are. - and an easy way to boost capacity is to reduce the space taken up by 1st Class
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London1 London1 (2138 days ago)
Latest comment: The costs are far too high and will only grow. Too many consultants, H&S, logistics and other firms end up coming on board and attempt to justify needing more people on the project driving costs ever higher as the project goes on. Large scale construction in this country is excessively greedy and needs a bringing into line. More than 6,000 per inch to build a tunnel this things going to use! You could cut it by hand for less! All taken up by Consultants fees no doubt!
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Latest comment: The costs are far too high and will only grow. Too many consultants, H&S, logistics and other firms end up coming on board and attempt to justify needing more people on the project driving costs ever higher as the project goes on. Large scale construction in this country is excessively greedy and needs a bringing into line. More than 6,000 per inch to build a tunnel this things going to use! You could cut it by hand for less! All taken up by Consultants fees no doubt!
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Guest: Bob (2140 days ago)
Interested to know more about this because as a businessman working between London and Birmingham, it doesn't seem worth the money. Why? Because the time shaved off the journey is minimal, but does manage to disrupt settling down to work on a laptop during the journey. HS Broadband on trains is a better idea. So, a few questions... 1. Can we afford this? Aren't we in financially dire straits? 2. Does this create employment - is the company English-based, pays tax in England, and hires English workers? 3. Is this related to the European Union plans to link its various outposts with HS trainlines eg. France/ Spain? 4. What is the ROI?
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Interested to know more about this because as a businessman working between London and Birmingham, it doesn't seem worth the money. Why? Because the time shaved off the journey is minimal, but does manage to disrupt settling down to work on a laptop during the journey. HS Broadband on trains is a better idea. So, a few questions... 1. Can we afford this? Aren't we in financially dire straits? 2. Does this create employment - is the company English-based, pays tax in England, and hires English workers? 3. Is this related to the European Union plans to link its various outposts with HS trainlines eg. France/ Spain? 4. What is the ROI?
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Guest: DeltaWhisky (2139 days ago)
This should be put to a referendum. Since the country is in big financial trouble, I fail to see any benefit other than that the ConDems will be able to say 'Look what we have done for the nation' - which will actually be to leave us in more, worse debt. If the country has that much money to spend, what about getting those aircraft carriers underway? What about paying the nurses enough to make them want to stay in their jobs, rather than sod off to private medicine or countries where the pay is much better. What about putting a bit more into the NHS so they don't have to settle for the cheapest cleaning tender and can get rid of flesh-eating bugs, MRSA, norovirus and the other perils to sick people. I'm bloody sure 32 billion quid could be much more usefully used than tearing up chunks of the country in order to shave a bit of time off a journey between London and Birmingham.
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This should be put to a referendum. Since the country is in big financial trouble, I fail to see any benefit other than that the ConDems will be able to say 'Look what we have done for the nation' - which will actually be to leave us in more, worse debt. If the country has that much money to spend, what about getting those aircraft carriers underway? What about paying the nurses enough to make them want to stay in their jobs, rather than sod off to private medicine or countries where the pay is much better. What about putting a bit more into the NHS so they don't have to settle for the cheapest cleaning tender and can get rid of flesh-eating bugs, MRSA, norovirus and the other perils to sick people. I'm bloody sure 32 billion quid could be much more usefully used than tearing up chunks of the country in order to shave a bit of time off a journey between London and Birmingham.
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