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Protesters evict police

Protesters evict police

(2:00) September 2012 in Madrid, Spain: Protesters peacefully evict police from their patch. Imagine it the other way round.

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Guest: (1892 days ago)
No wonder the Catalans want to get out of the only third world country left in the EU...
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No wonder the Catalans want to get out of the only third world country left in the EU...
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Guest: (1892 days ago)
You forgot about Greece and Portugal.
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You forgot about Greece and Portugal.
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Guest: Kerry (1891 days ago)
Judge Napolitano's words are priceless. Of course he says "What if..." but we all know it has already happened. American citizens have lost their basic rights, many under Obama, so now the govt. can do what it wants to you without fear of legal restraint...you're ******* Do you hear liberals or republicans talking like this? No, they've both sold you out.
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Judge Napolitano's words are priceless. Of course he says "What if..." but we all know it has already happened. American citizens have lost their basic rights, many under Obama, so now the govt. can do what it wants to you without fear of legal restraint...you're ******* Do you hear liberals or republicans talking like this? No, they've both sold you out.
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glortman glortman (1891 days ago)
It looks like the experiment in freedom and franchise, begun in the west around the time of the French Revolution, is coming to a close. Concentration of power, wealth and opportunity is reverting to the hands of the few.
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It looks like the experiment in freedom and franchise, begun in the west around the time of the French Revolution, is coming to a close. Concentration of power, wealth and opportunity is reverting to the hands of the few.
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Guest: Fink (1892 days ago)
Video 1 is questionable as evidence. Lots of brutality on display but you can't judge the context or possible provocation when most of the clips just begin with a police beating.
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Video 1 is questionable as evidence. Lots of brutality on display but you can't judge the context or possible provocation when most of the clips just begin with a police beating.
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cengland0 cengland0 (1891 days ago)
Agreed. This could have been an unlawful assembly and was about to become a riot and the police has asked them to leave but they did not leave.
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Agreed. This could have been an unlawful assembly and was about to become a riot and the police has asked them to leave but they did not leave.
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Guest: Brutality (1891 days ago)
RIOT !!!! Helpless women on the floor being beaten senseless. Yeh!! looked like a riot to me.
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RIOT !!!! Helpless women on the floor being beaten senseless. Yeh!! looked like a riot to me.
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glortman glortman (1891 days ago)
cengland0, very simply in a democratic nation, it is wrong to beat people for something they might potentially do. There is further a question of the degree of force relative to the situation. I am sure you are also aware, that with large crowds, 'leaving' is not a simple process... try to get across a busy tube platform, never mind walk through 10s of thousands of people. I would also argue the video of beating unarmed, seated women and aged persons is damning. This is not keeping the peace. This is brutality.
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cengland0, very simply in a democratic nation, it is wrong to beat people for something they might potentially do. There is further a question of the degree of force relative to the situation. I am sure you are also aware, that with large crowds, 'leaving' is not a simple process... try to get across a busy tube platform, never mind walk through 10s of thousands of people. I would also argue the video of beating unarmed, seated women and aged persons is damning. This is not keeping the peace. This is brutality.
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cengland0 cengland0 (1884 days ago)
Put yourself in the shoes of the police. There is an unauthorized demonstration and you have been told to get rid of the crowd. You ask people nicely to leave but they refuse. Instead, they throw rocks at you (not shown in the video) but it happens. What is your next step? Get on your hands and knees and say please leave?
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Put yourself in the shoes of the police. There is an unauthorized demonstration and you have been told to get rid of the crowd. You ask people nicely to leave but they refuse. Instead, they throw rocks at you (not shown in the video) but it happens. What is your next step? Get on your hands and knees and say please leave?
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glortman glortman (1884 days ago)
cengland0, I agree we don't know the full story, and that the police are charged with a very difficult task. However, I absolutely reject the idea that violence is an appropriate response against unarmed citizens. The power of arrest for the unlawful behaviour of some individuals does not require or justify the indiscriminate use of force against all people in a group. Spain's government is drafting a law to ban the publication of images or footage of their police, including on social media. The increasing militarization of the police, legislated inscrutability of their behaviour and lack of public recourse is coming to a town near you. And you might think differently when the baton is on your back.
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cengland0, I agree we don't know the full story, and that the police are charged with a very difficult task. However, I absolutely reject the idea that violence is an appropriate response against unarmed citizens. The power of arrest for the unlawful behaviour of some individuals does not require or justify the indiscriminate use of force against all people in a group. Spain's government is drafting a law to ban the publication of images or footage of their police, including on social media. The increasing militarization of the police, legislated inscrutability of their behaviour and lack of public recourse is coming to a town near you. And you might think differently when the baton is on your back.
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cengland0 cengland0 (1883 days ago)
Latest comment: The difference is that you will not find me in a demonstration group like that. I'd rather be home watching TV or browsing the internet.
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Latest comment: The difference is that you will not find me in a demonstration group like that. I'd rather be home watching TV or browsing the internet.
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cengland0 cengland0 (1884 days ago)
I just thought of something. Your statement, "it is wrong to beat people for something they might potentially do" made me thing of an example. Suppose I saw a cop on the street and pulled out a gun and pointed it toward the cop. Should the cop be able to take action and shoot me? In your opinion, it would be wrong for the cop to shoot me for something that I might potentially do so he should not shoot.
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I just thought of something. Your statement, "it is wrong to beat people for something they might potentially do" made me thing of an example. Suppose I saw a cop on the street and pulled out a gun and pointed it toward the cop. Should the cop be able to take action and shoot me? In your opinion, it would be wrong for the cop to shoot me for something that I might potentially do so he should not shoot.
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