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Eric Hovind vs 11-year-old atheist

Eric Hovind vs 11-year-old atheist

(3:03) Son of creationist Ken Hovind, Eric Hovind debates God with a 6th grader (11-year-old) atheist, and loses. To be fair to Eric, it's hard to argue on the side of nonsense.

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Guest: Jimbo Chester (1819 days ago)
The sad part is that Eric Hovind actually believes all that unsubstantiated crap
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The sad part is that Eric Hovind actually believes all that unsubstantiated crap
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Guest: Sunk without trace (1820 days ago)
So IF god exists, and IF god knows everything, and IF god does not lie, and IF god tells me a fact X, then I too can know X. But how do I know that god exists, god knows everything, and that god does not lie? If the only way I know these previous facts must be for god to tell me. But unless I know these to be true, god cannot tell me anything. Catch-22. Otherwise, how could I tell the difference between god saying he exists, knows everything and does not lie, and eg Eric Hovind claiming that he exists, knows everything and does not lie? Hovind's argument does not hold water.
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So IF god exists, and IF god knows everything, and IF god does not lie, and IF god tells me a fact X, then I too can know X. But how do I know that god exists, god knows everything, and that god does not lie? If the only way I know these previous facts must be for god to tell me. But unless I know these to be true, god cannot tell me anything. Catch-22. Otherwise, how could I tell the difference between god saying he exists, knows everything and does not lie, and eg Eric Hovind claiming that he exists, knows everything and does not lie? Hovind's argument does not hold water.
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Guest: JoeTaicoon (1821 days ago)
So if God knows everything and never tells a lie and then tells you he exist... he must exist. Fair enough. But you would then first have to know that in fact God knows everything and that he never lies and that it is him telling you that he exist... even though you initially know nothing... Therefore you know God to exist because you know God to exist... and be truthfull at that. It's sad how religion aparently dulls the brain.
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So if God knows everything and never tells a lie and then tells you he exist... he must exist. Fair enough. But you would then first have to know that in fact God knows everything and that he never lies and that it is him telling you that he exist... even though you initially know nothing... Therefore you know God to exist because you know God to exist... and be truthfull at that. It's sad how religion aparently dulls the brain.
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Guest: (1822 days ago)
I used to debate a lot at a fairly high level when I was at school/university and saw this time after time with weak speakers on every topic under the sun. Getting tied up in your own ideas and not knowing when to admit "sorry, I'm lost just give me a moment" is one of the worst things that can happen to a debater (and it doesn't help that the reason he got lost was that his argument was crap).
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I used to debate a lot at a fairly high level when I was at school/university and saw this time after time with weak speakers on every topic under the sun. Getting tied up in your own ideas and not knowing when to admit "sorry, I'm lost just give me a moment" is one of the worst things that can happen to a debater (and it doesn't help that the reason he got lost was that his argument was crap).
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Guest: iknowlessthanyoudo (1822 days ago)
I want to send my kids to the same school that 6th grader goes to.
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I want to send my kids to the same school that 6th grader goes to.
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Guest: Guest God (1819 days ago)
Jesus loves logic. There is no logic using logic trying to convince an unlogical person.
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Jesus loves logic. There is no logic using logic trying to convince an unlogical person.
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Guest: rossglory (1820 days ago)
i'm pink therefore i'm spam
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i'm pink therefore i'm spam
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Guest: Richard_N (1821 days ago)
This argument is on a par with that of Xenophanes: God is perfect; the most perfect shape is a sphere; therefore God is spherical in form.
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This argument is on a par with that of Xenophanes: God is perfect; the most perfect shape is a sphere; therefore God is spherical in form.
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Guest: (1821 days ago)
Shut up you numpty.
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Shut up you numpty.
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Guest: Doe (1818 days ago)
Latest comment: God is perfect. The most perfect food is bacon. Therefore God is made of bacon.
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Latest comment: God is perfect. The most perfect food is bacon. Therefore God is made of bacon.
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