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Armed posse to patrol Arizona schools

(5:29) Believe it or not, Arizona Sheriff Joe Arpaio is to send a volunteer "armed posse" to protect schools, headed up by action-movie tough guy, Steven Seagal!

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cengland0 cengland0 (1713 days ago)
Sure Seagal is an actor but he is also a 7th-dan black belt in Aikido. He began his adult life as an Aikido instructor in Japan. Seagal is currently a Reserve Deputy Chief of the Sheriff's Office in the community of Jefferson Parish so I believe he's qualified to do this training and lead the posse. Perhaps these people interviewed should have researched his credentials before referring to him as just an actor.
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Sure Seagal is an actor but he is also a 7th-dan black belt in Aikido. He began his adult life as an Aikido instructor in Japan. Seagal is currently a Reserve Deputy Chief of the Sheriff's Office in the community of Jefferson Parish so I believe he's qualified to do this training and lead the posse. Perhaps these people interviewed should have researched his credentials before referring to him as just an actor.
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Norbert Norbert (1713 days ago)
For once cengland0 you posted something worth reading, that Seagal is more than just another ham actor. But still I am flabbergasted that so many Americans believe that guns in schools are the solution rather than legislation and more stringent gun control. I think it's partly your government but mostly your media that creates this fear and paranoia that drives a very large portion of your patriotic brethren to have guns tucked away in every room of the house, ready to shoot first and ask questions later. If things don't change then 20 years from now you will all be shooting the Sh1t out of each other in some dystopian society scared of everybody who isn't 100% american in some police state with drones flying 24/7 watching every move you... ah, wait a sec... p.s. I know feeding you is your favourite pass time, but restrain from scouring the internet for factual and witty comebacks, this isn't a dig, it's an observation. I'll let someone else take over and between us all we might be able to exhaust you, but I doubt it...! You're filling the void Sam left but your no where near as funny...
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For once cengland0 you posted something worth reading, that Seagal is more than just another ham actor. But still I am flabbergasted that so many Americans believe that guns in schools are the solution rather than legislation and more stringent gun control. I think it's partly your government but mostly your media that creates this fear and paranoia that drives a very large portion of your patriotic brethren to have guns tucked away in every room of the house, ready to shoot first and ask questions later. If things don't change then 20 years from now you will all be shooting the Sh1t out of each other in some dystopian society scared of everybody who isn't 100% american in some police state with drones flying 24/7 watching every move you... ah, wait a sec... p.s. I know feeding you is your favourite pass time, but restrain from scouring the internet for factual and witty comebacks, this isn't a dig, it's an observation. I'll let someone else take over and between us all we might be able to exhaust you, but I doubt it...! You're filling the void Sam left but your no where near as funny...
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cengland0 cengland0 (1713 days ago)
Regarding your comment about exhausting me, I'm almost there. I'm getting tired of the same comments over and over again. This is boreme and I'm getting bored with it. I find it incredible that people keep bring up the same circular logic. "Take away guns and gun murders will go down." "The proof is in the UK and Australia" (completely ignoring other countries where it didn't work). "Nobody needs guns that can fire that many rounds." "The 2nd Amendment was drafted 200 years ago and needs updating." There's more but that's a representative sample. Perhaps what I should do is create a long winded message that has all those comments answered and just copy and paste it each time. Also, I have no idea who this Sam person is that you referred to. I'm not trying to be funny. I'm generally a serious person and when I'm trying to be funny, it's usually obvious and followed by ":)"
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Regarding your comment about exhausting me, I'm almost there. I'm getting tired of the same comments over and over again. This is boreme and I'm getting bored with it. I find it incredible that people keep bring up the same circular logic. "Take away guns and gun murders will go down." "The proof is in the UK and Australia" (completely ignoring other countries where it didn't work). "Nobody needs guns that can fire that many rounds." "The 2nd Amendment was drafted 200 years ago and needs updating." There's more but that's a representative sample. Perhaps what I should do is create a long winded message that has all those comments answered and just copy and paste it each time. Also, I have no idea who this Sam person is that you referred to. I'm not trying to be funny. I'm generally a serious person and when I'm trying to be funny, it's usually obvious and followed by ":)"
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cengland0 cengland0 (1713 days ago)
Because legislation doesn't work. Schools are already a gun-free zone but the murders still occurred. Making schools a gun-free zone is potentially what is causing the problem. The murder knows nobody else is going to have a gun so you can go there and do whatever you want without any resistance. That was the same thing with the theater shooting. It was posted that guns were not allowed. You think it was just coincidence the shooter picked that particular theater instead of several closer to his home that did allow patrons to carry guns? I agree that media is a problem. They make it sound like we have a huge problem here and that is creating fear in the public when, in fact, murders by those rifles only accounts for 0.1% of all gun murders. The media keeps referring to certain rifles as "Assault Rifles" because that label causes shock in the viewers. I can cause an assault with a simple pistol but they don't call those "Assault Pistols".
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Because legislation doesn't work. Schools are already a gun-free zone but the murders still occurred. Making schools a gun-free zone is potentially what is causing the problem. The murder knows nobody else is going to have a gun so you can go there and do whatever you want without any resistance. That was the same thing with the theater shooting. It was posted that guns were not allowed. You think it was just coincidence the shooter picked that particular theater instead of several closer to his home that did allow patrons to carry guns? I agree that media is a problem. They make it sound like we have a huge problem here and that is creating fear in the public when, in fact, murders by those rifles only accounts for 0.1% of all gun murders. The media keeps referring to certain rifles as "Assault Rifles" because that label causes shock in the viewers. I can cause an assault with a simple pistol but they don't call those "Assault Pistols".
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Guest: (1713 days ago)
Can't believe the crap coming out of their mouths. ******* Idiots.
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Can't believe the crap coming out of their mouths. ******* Idiots.
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Guest: steve-o (1713 days ago)
Yay - highly armed posse's roaming around looking for problems. A media hellbent on whipping up paranoia, a public living in fear, and no-one looking at the actual causes of gun violence. Canada has as many guns as America, but a fraction of the deaths... and I'm not Canadian before anyone jumps in.
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Yay - highly armed posse's roaming around looking for problems. A media hellbent on whipping up paranoia, a public living in fear, and no-one looking at the actual causes of gun violence. Canada has as many guns as America, but a fraction of the deaths... and I'm not Canadian before anyone jumps in.
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cengland0 cengland0 (1713 days ago)
What is the cause of gun violence?
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What is the cause of gun violence?
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Guest: steve-o (1713 days ago)
That is exactly my question. A common thread seems to be media portraying danger and imminent threat. When people live in fear or suspician of danger they are more likely to shoot first and ask questions later (according to what I've read of course). Guns in themselves can present an opportunity that wasn't there but cannot be solely blamed for gun violence - people shoot people.
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That is exactly my question. A common thread seems to be media portraying danger and imminent threat. When people live in fear or suspician of danger they are more likely to shoot first and ask questions later (according to what I've read of course). Guns in themselves can present an opportunity that wasn't there but cannot be solely blamed for gun violence - people shoot people.
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cengland0 cengland0 (1713 days ago)
I will shoot first and then call the police after. I will not wait for the police to arrive when a madman is running after me with intent to hurt me or any of my loved ones. Would you really rely on the police to protect you? The police are not fast enough to get to my home before the event is over. I don't want their job to be in identifying my body and reviewing my surveillance video to determine what happened to me. Imagine how easy it would be to commit violent crimes such as armed robbery and rape if law abiding citizens were unarmed and only the criminals had guns. It would be an open invitation to commit those crimes without much resistance.
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I will shoot first and then call the police after. I will not wait for the police to arrive when a madman is running after me with intent to hurt me or any of my loved ones. Would you really rely on the police to protect you? The police are not fast enough to get to my home before the event is over. I don't want their job to be in identifying my body and reviewing my surveillance video to determine what happened to me. Imagine how easy it would be to commit violent crimes such as armed robbery and rape if law abiding citizens were unarmed and only the criminals had guns. It would be an open invitation to commit those crimes without much resistance.
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Guest: steve-o (1713 days ago)
I understand your fear of this sort of situation, and indeed you are powerless unless you have the MINDSET to deal with it (no good having a gun if you fall apart when it happens). It's interesting you say guns are not the problem - I partly agree and would add that they are not the solution either. I know plenty of friends who would never have the nerve to pull the trigger, and so would probably lose the gun to their attacker. I also have a genuine passion for understanding how you got to this point where there are so many deaths (despite being an advanced society) because unless we know there is no reason to suppose we will not be joining you shortly (GB). One of the most cited reasons on why people don't kill other people is nothing to do with policing and the law, but to do with the bonds within society. When these break down, virtually anything is possible (witness ordinary men commiting atrocities in Bosnia etc). By this token I do not see well formed societies going on the rampage regardless of weapon. Maybe we should be looking more towards goverments and big business who split up families geographically to suit their business model, or practise obviously unfair discriminatory policies that undermine a sense of fair play, or communities so indifferent or fragmented that they fail to see someone slowly going off the rails...
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I understand your fear of this sort of situation, and indeed you are powerless unless you have the MINDSET to deal with it (no good having a gun if you fall apart when it happens). It's interesting you say guns are not the problem - I partly agree and would add that they are not the solution either. I know plenty of friends who would never have the nerve to pull the trigger, and so would probably lose the gun to their attacker. I also have a genuine passion for understanding how you got to this point where there are so many deaths (despite being an advanced society) because unless we know there is no reason to suppose we will not be joining you shortly (GB). One of the most cited reasons on why people don't kill other people is nothing to do with policing and the law, but to do with the bonds within society. When these break down, virtually anything is possible (witness ordinary men commiting atrocities in Bosnia etc). By this token I do not see well formed societies going on the rampage regardless of weapon. Maybe we should be looking more towards goverments and big business who split up families geographically to suit their business model, or practise obviously unfair discriminatory policies that undermine a sense of fair play, or communities so indifferent or fragmented that they fail to see someone slowly going off the rails...
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cengland0 cengland0 (1713 days ago)
The problems are not with businesses splitting up families. It is just an opinion but I believe it is the media as part of it. When you show what happened at Sandy Hook and keep going on about how many were killed, it makes some people want to get their 15 minutes of fame by outdoing what was done before them. If the media would stop talking about these one-off events, we might be better off. Unfortunately with freedom of speech, they are allowed to discuss whatever they want and I don't want to take their freedom away from them. I just wish they were more aware of the long term causes of what they are doing. The other gun murders are probably due to drug deals gone bad. I heard a statistic that said you're more likely to get killed by a gun during a drug deal than you are being on death row in Texas. And then you have the people that feel they should have the ability to steal from others and break into homes and businesses. They also rob banks and stores at gun point because they want money for nothing. This ends up badly sometimes.
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The problems are not with businesses splitting up families. It is just an opinion but I believe it is the media as part of it. When you show what happened at Sandy Hook and keep going on about how many were killed, it makes some people want to get their 15 minutes of fame by outdoing what was done before them. If the media would stop talking about these one-off events, we might be better off. Unfortunately with freedom of speech, they are allowed to discuss whatever they want and I don't want to take their freedom away from them. I just wish they were more aware of the long term causes of what they are doing. The other gun murders are probably due to drug deals gone bad. I heard a statistic that said you're more likely to get killed by a gun during a drug deal than you are being on death row in Texas. And then you have the people that feel they should have the ability to steal from others and break into homes and businesses. They also rob banks and stores at gun point because they want money for nothing. This ends up badly sometimes.
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Guest: steve-o (1712 days ago)
Yes - media provides fame for these morons. It does make you wonder how prolific some serial killers would be if they knew there would be no word in the media about their atrocities. Denies them one thread to reliving their acts which seems to be a great source of pleasure to them. Then again the public at large seem to have a fascination with extreme violence and evil - people breaking into houses where killers have lived to grab souvenirs, endless books/videos about them etc etc. Maybe what we are asking for is a change in human nature... Disagree about businesses. I have worked for several large corporates and have been at the receiving end of someone's whim to move people around the country, and have seen the effects of families uprooted (unnecessarily as it turned out) and long ties with friends/neighbours severed. Not saying this is always the case, but it does happen in the UK a great deal.
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Yes - media provides fame for these morons. It does make you wonder how prolific some serial killers would be if they knew there would be no word in the media about their atrocities. Denies them one thread to reliving their acts which seems to be a great source of pleasure to them. Then again the public at large seem to have a fascination with extreme violence and evil - people breaking into houses where killers have lived to grab souvenirs, endless books/videos about them etc etc. Maybe what we are asking for is a change in human nature... Disagree about businesses. I have worked for several large corporates and have been at the receiving end of someone's whim to move people around the country, and have seen the effects of families uprooted (unnecessarily as it turned out) and long ties with friends/neighbours severed. Not saying this is always the case, but it does happen in the UK a great deal.
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cengland0 cengland0 (1712 days ago)
Latest comment: Other than our military, the private sector businesses cannot force a person to move around the country. However, if you want that promotion, you may be asked to relocate to wherever that vacancy is. If you refuse to relocate, then you do not get the job. Makes sense to me. Large companies in America have procedures for changing job requirements. Some job requirements they cannot change on a whim are fulltime/parttime, travel requirements, relocation, and shift hours. If they want to make those changes, the correct procedure is to discontinue the existing position and then create a new job for the new position with the new requirements. The incumbent can apply for the new position if they want. I am so positive about this because it happened to me. The company liked my work so much that they wanted me to do it at a national level with a huge promotion. This required 20% travel. I refused because I don't travel, they said I couldn't refuse. I looked up the policy and discovered they cannot do that and challenged them on it. So then they followed the correct procedure by discontinuing my job and creating a new one. My job was then discontinued and I was given a 60 day notice. In order to receive my severance, I had to apply for all jobs that I qualified for. Since I qualified for that job, I applied and got an interview. During the interview I told the hiring manager I did not want the job and was only applying for it because I had to. I did not get the promotion or the job and ended up leaving the company. Now keep in mind, this was all my choice. I could have stayed but I did not want to under those conditions. Everyone that works for a large company that is required to relocate can make the same choices in their life.
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Latest comment: Other than our military, the private sector businesses cannot force a person to move around the country. However, if you want that promotion, you may be asked to relocate to wherever that vacancy is. If you refuse to relocate, then you do not get the job. Makes sense to me. Large companies in America have procedures for changing job requirements. Some job requirements they cannot change on a whim are fulltime/parttime, travel requirements, relocation, and shift hours. If they want to make those changes, the correct procedure is to discontinue the existing position and then create a new job for the new position with the new requirements. The incumbent can apply for the new position if they want. I am so positive about this because it happened to me. The company liked my work so much that they wanted me to do it at a national level with a huge promotion. This required 20% travel. I refused because I don't travel, they said I couldn't refuse. I looked up the policy and discovered they cannot do that and challenged them on it. So then they followed the correct procedure by discontinuing my job and creating a new one. My job was then discontinued and I was given a 60 day notice. In order to receive my severance, I had to apply for all jobs that I qualified for. Since I qualified for that job, I applied and got an interview. During the interview I told the hiring manager I did not want the job and was only applying for it because I had to. I did not get the promotion or the job and ended up leaving the company. Now keep in mind, this was all my choice. I could have stayed but I did not want to under those conditions. Everyone that works for a large company that is required to relocate can make the same choices in their life.
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Guest: Spartacus (1713 days ago)
My babies...my loved ones...my beautiful America... just brings tears to my eyes.
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My babies...my loved ones...my beautiful America... just brings tears to my eyes.
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