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Largest protests in decades sweep Brazil

(2:48) Reminiscent of Turkey, peaceful protests against the increase in bus fairs escalated to mass protests in major cities, Brasilia, Sao Paulo, Rio de Janeiro, Belo Horizonte, against a wide range of issues including government corruption and income inequality.

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cengland0 cengland0 (1638 days ago)
This is what can happen when the bus system is controlled by the state without competition. They can raise their monopolistic prices and the people cannot do anything about it except riot. If there was competition and one company raises prices, the customers would go to the other vendor and the company raising prices will lose customers, possibly go out of business, or reduce their prices by reducing expenses to remain competitive with the other companies.
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This is what can happen when the bus system is controlled by the state without competition. They can raise their monopolistic prices and the people cannot do anything about it except riot. If there was competition and one company raises prices, the customers would go to the other vendor and the company raising prices will lose customers, possibly go out of business, or reduce their prices by reducing expenses to remain competitive with the other companies.
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WalterEgo WalterEgo (1638 days ago)
More schoolboy economics. Not only is your analysis way too simplistic and narrow, the protests are not about bus fares. As in Turkey, a small protest has escalated into mass protest on a wide range of issues. In the case of Brazil, it seems that at the root of the dissatisfaction is corporatism.
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More schoolboy economics. Not only is your analysis way too simplistic and narrow, the protests are not about bus fares. As in Turkey, a small protest has escalated into mass protest on a wide range of issues. In the case of Brazil, it seems that at the root of the dissatisfaction is corporatism.
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cengland0 cengland0 (1638 days ago)
Right in the title, "peaceful protests against the increase in bus fairs escalated to mass protests in major cities"
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Right in the title, "peaceful protests against the increase in bus fairs escalated to mass protests in major cities"
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Guest: guest123456789 (1638 days ago)
in the description of the video you will find ""Reminiscent of Turkey, peaceful protests against the increase in bus fairs escalated to mass protests in major cities, Brasilia, Sao Paulo, Rio de Janeiro, Belo Horizonte, against a wide range of issues including government corruption and income inequality. "" A WIDE RANGE OF ISSUES INCLUDING INCOME INEQUALITY. carla from Brazil tells us exactly why there are protest in Brazil LINK . Conveniently ignored video.
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in the description of the video you will find ""Reminiscent of Turkey, peaceful protests against the increase in bus fairs escalated to mass protests in major cities, Brasilia, Sao Paulo, Rio de Janeiro, Belo Horizonte, against a wide range of issues including government corruption and income inequality. "" A WIDE RANGE OF ISSUES INCLUDING INCOME INEQUALITY. carla from Brazil tells us exactly why there are protest in Brazil LINK . Conveniently ignored video.
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cengland0 cengland0 (1638 days ago)
Excuse me but I was responding to WalterEgo where he said "the protests are not about bus fares" and the title clearly says it was. It might have escalated to include a wider range of things but it started out being about bus fairs.
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Excuse me but I was responding to WalterEgo where he said "the protests are not about bus fares" and the title clearly says it was. It might have escalated to include a wider range of things but it started out being about bus fairs.
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Guest: guest123456789 (1638 days ago)
the title of the youtube video says ""Brazil Bedlam: Largest-in-decades protests sweep country"" . the title of the boreme video says ""Largest protests in decades sweep Brazil"". I'm having a hard time understanding to what tile are you reffering
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the title of the youtube video says ""Brazil Bedlam: Largest-in-decades protests sweep country"" . the title of the boreme video says ""Largest protests in decades sweep Brazil"". I'm having a hard time understanding to what tile are you reffering
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TheBob TheBob (1638 days ago)
I've never been to a bus fair. Are they any good?
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I've never been to a bus fair. Are they any good?
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WellHungarian WellHungarian (1638 days ago)
Imagine if they were armed
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Imagine if they were armed
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Guest: guest123456789 (1638 days ago)
they'd probabbly ban abortions because abortion doctors will get killed by right wing homegrown terrorists... don't you think? guns might actually help... or not... what do you think?
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they'd probabbly ban abortions because abortion doctors will get killed by right wing homegrown terrorists... don't you think? guns might actually help... or not... what do you think?
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TheBob TheBob (1638 days ago)
One of the problems with privatising public services is you don't get cross-subsidisation. Companies compete for the high-volume, profitable routes and services to less populated areas tend to disappear. When the motivation is to provide a service rather than make a profit, more areas of society benefit.
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One of the problems with privatising public services is you don't get cross-subsidisation. Companies compete for the high-volume, profitable routes and services to less populated areas tend to disappear. When the motivation is to provide a service rather than make a profit, more areas of society benefit.
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Guest: guest123456789 (1638 days ago)
in a privatised sector of the economy, when the profits are too low, the owners/CEO's of the companies that are part of that sector meet each other and agree on a fixed price for their products/services, it may be illegal and hard to prove, but they're all doing it.
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in a privatised sector of the economy, when the profits are too low, the owners/CEO's of the companies that are part of that sector meet each other and agree on a fixed price for their products/services, it may be illegal and hard to prove, but they're all doing it.
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TheBob TheBob (1638 days ago)
And in the public sector, you pay for the cost of the service. When that's privatised you pay for the service plus a profit for the shareholders. That profit can only come from reduced wages, higher prices or cuts in the service.
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And in the public sector, you pay for the cost of the service. When that's privatised you pay for the service plus a profit for the shareholders. That profit can only come from reduced wages, higher prices or cuts in the service.
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Guest: guest123456789 (1638 days ago)
not to mention that the companies that get those contracts have an owner/CEO or some sort of director who's friends with the Mayor and get preferential treatment at the auction, which is also illegal in those countries where lobby isn't a thing.usually the conditions for a company to be eligible for that contract can be met only by the company that happens to have someone who is friends with the mayor.
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not to mention that the companies that get those contracts have an owner/CEO or some sort of director who's friends with the Mayor and get preferential treatment at the auction, which is also illegal in those countries where lobby isn't a thing.usually the conditions for a company to be eligible for that contract can be met only by the company that happens to have someone who is friends with the mayor.
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TheBob TheBob (1638 days ago)
or their companies routinely give stonking great donations to whichever political party supports their desire for rampant profiteering over the common wealth
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or their companies routinely give stonking great donations to whichever political party supports their desire for rampant profiteering over the common wealth
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Guest: guest123456789 (1638 days ago)
and sometimes, when honest competitors do come with the naive thought that capitalism actually works how they've been thought in school, the companies that are already active in that particular market resort to intimidation tactics from lawsuits to sabotage of the facilities and even intimidation by hiring the local gangsters.
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and sometimes, when honest competitors do come with the naive thought that capitalism actually works how they've been thought in school, the companies that are already active in that particular market resort to intimidation tactics from lawsuits to sabotage of the facilities and even intimidation by hiring the local gangsters.
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TheBob TheBob (1638 days ago)
Such a system is so obviously against the public interest, I can't believe anyone would defend it.
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Such a system is so obviously against the public interest, I can't believe anyone would defend it.
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Guest: guest123456789 (1638 days ago)
it's not against everyone, it's just against the 99% of the population. that 1% will surely defend it with everything they have, and it worked out fine too... until the information age came along.
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it's not against everyone, it's just against the 99% of the population. that 1% will surely defend it with everything they have, and it worked out fine too... until the information age came along.
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TheBob TheBob (1638 days ago)
The law will punish man or woman who steals the goose from off the common - but let the greater felon loose who steals the common from the goose
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The law will punish man or woman who steals the goose from off the common - but let the greater felon loose who steals the common from the goose
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Guest: guest123456789 (1638 days ago)
it's how it was and always will be... if the internet gets regulatesd and controled.
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it's how it was and always will be... if the internet gets regulatesd and controled.
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tornadodog tornadodog (1638 days ago)
thebob and 123456789 that was a set of priceless posts.well and truly spammed it!!
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thebob and 123456789 that was a set of priceless posts.well and truly spammed it!!
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cengland0 cengland0 (1638 days ago)
When the bus system is run by the state, they may or may not break even by also collecting fares. Tax dollars are used to subsidize the system if they do not collect enough and tax revenue is generated if they collect too much. Regarding the public transportation in New York as an example, taxes from other sources is used to pay for half of it. LINK It's not fair to have tax dollars from people that do not use the systems to pay for it.
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When the bus system is run by the state, they may or may not break even by also collecting fares. Tax dollars are used to subsidize the system if they do not collect enough and tax revenue is generated if they collect too much. Regarding the public transportation in New York as an example, taxes from other sources is used to pay for half of it. LINK It's not fair to have tax dollars from people that do not use the systems to pay for it.
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TheBob TheBob (1638 days ago)
But that's what community is all about. I don't have children, but I'm happy for my taxes to be spent on schools because having an educated society benefits us all. I'm happy to pay for the fire service even though I hope never to use them. I'm happy if my popular bus route subsidises a less popular one
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But that's what community is all about. I don't have children, but I'm happy for my taxes to be spent on schools because having an educated society benefits us all. I'm happy to pay for the fire service even though I hope never to use them. I'm happy if my popular bus route subsidises a less popular one
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Guest: guest123456789 (1638 days ago)
here here! that's the whole point of civilized society. Selfishness, greed and avarice has no place in it.
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here here! that's the whole point of civilized society. Selfishness, greed and avarice has no place in it.
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cengland0 cengland0 (1638 days ago)
Community = socialism. You guys being from the UK have no problem with paying high taxes because you've done it for so long. The US wants to pay fewer taxes so privatization and capitalism is the best solution for us. People who use the transportation system should be the ones to pay for it. Brazil probably realized they were not collecting enough money to pay for the majority of the service so they had to increase the fare. Seems fair to me as long as they don't make excessive profits to pay for other unrelated social services.
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Community = socialism. You guys being from the UK have no problem with paying high taxes because you've done it for so long. The US wants to pay fewer taxes so privatization and capitalism is the best solution for us. People who use the transportation system should be the ones to pay for it. Brazil probably realized they were not collecting enough money to pay for the majority of the service so they had to increase the fare. Seems fair to me as long as they don't make excessive profits to pay for other unrelated social services.
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Guest: guest123456789 (1638 days ago)
paragraph from "The Myth of Low-Tax America: Why Americans Aren't Getting Their Money's Worth" LINK : >>> The Bigger Picture of Our Tax Burden A thorough "tax analysis" would need to create a ledger in which all the supports and services Americans receive are listed on one side of the ledger, and the amount of taxes and any additional out-of-pocket expenses, fees and surcharges we pay are listed on the other. And then compare that to what other countries pay and what they receive. When you sum up the total balance sheet, it turns out that Americans pay out as much as those "high-taxed" Europeans -- but we get a lot less for our money. Unfortunately these sorts of complexities are not calculated into simplistic analyses like Forbes' annual Tax Misery Index, which shows European nations as the most "miserable" and the low-tax United States happy as a clam down near the bottom on their index -- right next to Indonesia, Malaysia and the Philippines. That's because the Forbes Tax Misery Index only takes into account income tax, Social Security or retirement tax, corporate tax, sales tax or VAT and a few other minor taxes. It doesn't consider the vast amounts that Americans are paying out-of-pocket, nor what people are receiving for those payments in terms of supports for families and individuals. Ideologically-bound Americans counter that, at least in the U.S. it is discretionary about whether or not you purchase these services. The government isn't picking your pocket through higher taxes or forcing you to purchase any particular form of assistance. That's undeniably true. But in this economically insecure age, are services like health care, higher education or some kind of skilled job training, child care, sick leave, parental leave, retirement and senior care really discretionary? Or are they increasingly essential to ensure healthy, happy and productive families and employees? <<<
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paragraph from "The Myth of Low-Tax America: Why Americans Aren't Getting Their Money's Worth" LINK : >>> The Bigger Picture of Our Tax Burden A thorough "tax analysis" would need to create a ledger in which all the supports and services Americans receive are listed on one side of the ledger, and the amount of taxes and any additional out-of-pocket expenses, fees and surcharges we pay are listed on the other. And then compare that to what other countries pay and what they receive. When you sum up the total balance sheet, it turns out that Americans pay out as much as those "high-taxed" Europeans -- but we get a lot less for our money. Unfortunately these sorts of complexities are not calculated into simplistic analyses like Forbes' annual Tax Misery Index, which shows European nations as the most "miserable" and the low-tax United States happy as a clam down near the bottom on their index -- right next to Indonesia, Malaysia and the Philippines. That's because the Forbes Tax Misery Index only takes into account income tax, Social Security or retirement tax, corporate tax, sales tax or VAT and a few other minor taxes. It doesn't consider the vast amounts that Americans are paying out-of-pocket, nor what people are receiving for those payments in terms of supports for families and individuals. Ideologically-bound Americans counter that, at least in the U.S. it is discretionary about whether or not you purchase these services. The government isn't picking your pocket through higher taxes or forcing you to purchase any particular form of assistance. That's undeniably true. But in this economically insecure age, are services like health care, higher education or some kind of skilled job training, child care, sick leave, parental leave, retirement and senior care really discretionary? Or are they increasingly essential to ensure healthy, happy and productive families and employees? <<<
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cengland0 cengland0 (1638 days ago)
You are making a simple statement seem very complicated. The fact is that the UK citizens pay more in taxes on their income than the citizens of the US. Even still, the US wants to reduce our tax burden.
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You are making a simple statement seem very complicated. The fact is that the UK citizens pay more in taxes on their income than the citizens of the US. Even still, the US wants to reduce our tax burden.
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Guest: guest123456789 (1638 days ago)
you are trying to resume a complicated situation to a simple statement. Reducing taxes will mean that there will be less money for the local, state and federal administrative institutions, but those institutions won't be able to function without money so they will have to make them up through fees. The fees will not be a problem for those who are already wealthy but they will be a major problem for those who were always poor, resulting in a lower standard of living for the working class and middle class which make up the majority of the population of any country. Not to mention personnel cuts and shady privatizations of public services.
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you are trying to resume a complicated situation to a simple statement. Reducing taxes will mean that there will be less money for the local, state and federal administrative institutions, but those institutions won't be able to function without money so they will have to make them up through fees. The fees will not be a problem for those who are already wealthy but they will be a major problem for those who were always poor, resulting in a lower standard of living for the working class and middle class which make up the majority of the population of any country. Not to mention personnel cuts and shady privatizations of public services.
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cengland0 cengland0 (1638 days ago)
The proposal is to remove expenses by getting rid of the unnecessary social programs. Since those programs would be shut down, the amount of money needing to be collected can be reduced. You made the assumption that we want to keep all pork barrel programs and also reduce taxes. That is not what we want.
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The proposal is to remove expenses by getting rid of the unnecessary social programs. Since those programs would be shut down, the amount of money needing to be collected can be reduced. You made the assumption that we want to keep all pork barrel programs and also reduce taxes. That is not what we want.
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Guest: guest123456789 (1638 days ago)
what programs are you referring to exactly?
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what programs are you referring to exactly?
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cengland0 cengland0 (1638 days ago)
Being closely related to libertarian, I would say all social programs with the exception of national defense, local police, and assistance for handicapped that are unable to work.
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Being closely related to libertarian, I would say all social programs with the exception of national defense, local police, and assistance for handicapped that are unable to work.
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Guest: guest123456789 (1638 days ago)
LOL! where i live, Gypsies brake their own arms and legs, or have someone do it for them, so i don't think you'll get rid of the "lazy people" problem by cutting welfare , unemployment , healthcare , the fire department, etc. If the public services are bad then they need to be reformed not eliminated and the USA has the capacity to look at the way other countries run their public services and copy the best of the best, the only thing they're lacking is political will. Besides, what do you think it's gonna happen when all those lazy people run out of welfare money? increased crime rate. It's ironic how the policies you endorse actually increase the chances of you dying a brutal death. By the time the libertarians will be done with the USA you'll be living in feudalism.
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LOL! where i live, Gypsies brake their own arms and legs, or have someone do it for them, so i don't think you'll get rid of the "lazy people" problem by cutting welfare , unemployment , healthcare , the fire department, etc. If the public services are bad then they need to be reformed not eliminated and the USA has the capacity to look at the way other countries run their public services and copy the best of the best, the only thing they're lacking is political will. Besides, what do you think it's gonna happen when all those lazy people run out of welfare money? increased crime rate. It's ironic how the policies you endorse actually increase the chances of you dying a brutal death. By the time the libertarians will be done with the USA you'll be living in feudalism.
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cengland0 cengland0 (1638 days ago)
Unemployment isn't really that much of a social program. The companies pay unemployment insurance for that benefit so it's funded by the employers -- not tax dollars. "In the majority of States, benefit funding is based solely on a tax imposed on employers." LINK Regarding the poor people running out of money, they will either 1. Starve to death, 2. Get a Job, 3. Steal. You, of course, picked only one of the options. Besides, I said we would keep the local police so hopefully they would get busted and taken off the streets. What makes you think it would cause me to die a brutal death? Don't you believe that I might have the necessary personal protection to prevent that sort of thing?
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Unemployment isn't really that much of a social program. The companies pay unemployment insurance for that benefit so it's funded by the employers -- not tax dollars. "In the majority of States, benefit funding is based solely on a tax imposed on employers." LINK Regarding the poor people running out of money, they will either 1. Starve to death, 2. Get a Job, 3. Steal. You, of course, picked only one of the options. Besides, I said we would keep the local police so hopefully they would get busted and taken off the streets. What makes you think it would cause me to die a brutal death? Don't you believe that I might have the necessary personal protection to prevent that sort of thing?
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Guest: guest123456789 (1638 days ago)
tax imposed on employers... i thought you were against taxes... nonetheless, seeing that the trend for companies is to hire smart accountants and lawyers and to lobby politicians to change the laws in favor of corporations in the detriment of the people, so that they can pay 14% instead of 35%... i doubt those taxes would be enough to pay for that unemployment insurance, but i'll give you the benefit of the doubt on this one. in regards to the poor people running out of money they will either 1.murder innocent people out of desperation, 2. murder innocent people to steal their goods, 3.resort to organized crime and the black market to make a living, 3. go into the human trafficking business (kids for sex and organs and stuff), 4. maim themselves to get that handicap benefits, 5. sell their kids (just like the gypsies are already doing), 6.end up in a US private slave prison where they will make a lot of money for the people who lobbied for harsher laws. Stealing is the least of your worries. A taurus Judge and a glock or 1911 (i forget which one you have) is not gonna help you against a gang of hardened crip members who are out to get you. You will be leaving in a constant state of fear... just like in the wild wild west.
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tax imposed on employers... i thought you were against taxes... nonetheless, seeing that the trend for companies is to hire smart accountants and lawyers and to lobby politicians to change the laws in favor of corporations in the detriment of the people, so that they can pay 14% instead of 35%... i doubt those taxes would be enough to pay for that unemployment insurance, but i'll give you the benefit of the doubt on this one. in regards to the poor people running out of money they will either 1.murder innocent people out of desperation, 2. murder innocent people to steal their goods, 3.resort to organized crime and the black market to make a living, 3. go into the human trafficking business (kids for sex and organs and stuff), 4. maim themselves to get that handicap benefits, 5. sell their kids (just like the gypsies are already doing), 6.end up in a US private slave prison where they will make a lot of money for the people who lobbied for harsher laws. Stealing is the least of your worries. A taurus Judge and a glock or 1911 (i forget which one you have) is not gonna help you against a gang of hardened crip members who are out to get you. You will be leaving in a constant state of fear... just like in the wild wild west.
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Latest comment: ....LIVING* LIVING* what. the. !@#$%^&.
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Latest comment: ....LIVING* LIVING* what. the. !@#$%^&.
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Guest: guest123456789 (1638 days ago)
... you will be a lot better of if you keep those lazy people sedated on welfare, if you provide a proper education for them and use them for votes when the election comes. In a democracy, you will win only if you have the majority of votes, and since the lazy, the poor and the middle class represent the majority, you will always have to take their wants and needs into account. You will be better off if you provide a proper education and healthcare to all so that they can actually function in society and be productive members of it. And in America, the number of white male baby boomers is constantly decreasing whilst the number of people born since 1995 is constantly increasing. I've read somewhere that the number of people born between 1985 and 1995 is greater than the number of living baby boomers, meaning that they represent a voting force to be reckoned with, and since the majority IS and will continue to be made of young, student debt stricken, no job opportunity, internet consuming, lazy people... a great portion of the votes will go to those who address their worries and needs. Even if your political views would be the right ones for America you're still on the losing side.
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... you will be a lot better of if you keep those lazy people sedated on welfare, if you provide a proper education for them and use them for votes when the election comes. In a democracy, you will win only if you have the majority of votes, and since the lazy, the poor and the middle class represent the majority, you will always have to take their wants and needs into account. You will be better off if you provide a proper education and healthcare to all so that they can actually function in society and be productive members of it. And in America, the number of white male baby boomers is constantly decreasing whilst the number of people born since 1995 is constantly increasing. I've read somewhere that the number of people born between 1985 and 1995 is greater than the number of living baby boomers, meaning that they represent a voting force to be reckoned with, and since the majority IS and will continue to be made of young, student debt stricken, no job opportunity, internet consuming, lazy people... a great portion of the votes will go to those who address their worries and needs. Even if your political views would be the right ones for America you're still on the losing side.
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break* BREAK* god damn spell check doesn't correct the words that exist...
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break* BREAK* god damn spell check doesn't correct the words that exist...
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unemployment AID* !@#$% that's it... i'm out for the evening... i think...
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unemployment AID* !@#$% that's it... i'm out for the evening... i think...
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that's right, if you can't have it no one should, so burn it all down! show them who's in charge!
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that's right, if you can't have it no one should, so burn it all down! show them who's in charge!
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