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TPP, Wikileaks' latest bombshell

TPP, Wikileaks' latest bombshell

(10:50) Wikileaks has released another bombshell - a portion of text from the secretly negotiated Trans Pacific Partnership (TTP). American attorney and radio talk show host Mike Papantonio discusses TPP with Thom Hartmann from Russia Today.

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Guest: Sceptic listener (1436 days ago)
Propaganda pure and simple. How do they manage to keep straight faces I don't know. Well, almost straight, couple times you could see they have difficulty with the rubbish they spew forth. 10 mins of emotional accusations, scary claims, slogans and.... not a SINGLE fact from the leaked TPP text to support them. From listening to those [wasted] 10 mins, can anyone tell just WHAT exactly is in there to justify all the noise?
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Propaganda pure and simple. How do they manage to keep straight faces I don't know. Well, almost straight, couple times you could see they have difficulty with the rubbish they spew forth. 10 mins of emotional accusations, scary claims, slogans and.... not a SINGLE fact from the leaked TPP text to support them. From listening to those [wasted] 10 mins, can anyone tell just WHAT exactly is in there to justify all the noise?
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Guest: (1438 days ago)
don't you love globalisation and capitalism?
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don't you love globalisation and capitalism?
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Guest: Guest too. (1436 days ago)
Yes, we do. Why?
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Yes, we do. Why?
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Guest: SATAN'S RAPE CONTRACTOR (1436 days ago)
cengland0 is sheit! corporatist piece of sheit banker, lying, cheating, right wing, corporate, low level propagandist codger F*CK!
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cengland0 is sheit! corporatist piece of sheit banker, lying, cheating, right wing, corporate, low level propagandist codger F*CK!
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WalterEgo WalterEgo (1436 days ago)
cengland0 is a rightwing corporatist banker for sure. But he's not a liar or cheat, just deluded like a deeply religious person is. He needs help, not abuse.
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cengland0 is a rightwing corporatist banker for sure. But he's not a liar or cheat, just deluded like a deeply religious person is. He needs help, not abuse.
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Guest: SATAN'S RAPE CONTRACTOR (1436 days ago)
sometimes, people are not stupid and ignorant. sometimes people just pretend to be so, to cover their arse! i should know! are you reading this CENGF*CK?? F*CK YOU, i know your game you little sheit! YOU manipulative propagandist codger F*CK!
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sometimes, people are not stupid and ignorant. sometimes people just pretend to be so, to cover their arse! i should know! are you reading this CENGF*CK?? F*CK YOU, i know your game you little sheit! YOU manipulative propagandist codger F*CK!
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WalterEgo WalterEgo (1436 days ago)
Sometimes also means not always. I don't think cengland0 has the imagination to be a liar. He bends or selects facts that fit his views rather than the other way around. Actually what everybody does to some extent.
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Sometimes also means not always. I don't think cengland0 has the imagination to be a liar. He bends or selects facts that fit his views rather than the other way around. Actually what everybody does to some extent.
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cengland0 cengland0 (1436 days ago)
WalterEgo, I'm not so far right as you might think. I'm skewed a little to the right but not much. LINK I asked you to take the same test but I never saw your results. I expect them to be far left and closer to Authoritarian than Libertarian.
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WalterEgo, I'm not so far right as you might think. I'm skewed a little to the right but not much. LINK I asked you to take the same test but I never saw your results. I expect them to be far left and closer to Authoritarian than Libertarian.
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Guest: SATAN'S RAPE CONTRACTOR (1436 days ago)
what a manipulative F*CK you are! give us the real results not just some sheit image from wbttools, you manipulative Fascist F*CK! propagandist piece of sheit! Lying codger bastard f*ck! and don't give me that "i took it some time ago and saved the picture" you lying propagandist bastard f*ck! take the fekin test ya lying piece of sheit LINK or don't, you're a fekin liar codger f*ck anyway!
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what a manipulative F*CK you are! give us the real results not just some sheit image from wbttools, you manipulative Fascist F*CK! propagandist piece of sheit! Lying codger bastard f*ck! and don't give me that "i took it some time ago and saved the picture" you lying propagandist bastard f*ck! take the fekin test ya lying piece of sheit LINK or don't, you're a fekin liar codger f*ck anyway!
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cengland0 cengland0 (1436 days ago)
That's the test I took so how do you expect me to share my results without an image hosting server?
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That's the test I took so how do you expect me to share my results without an image hosting server?
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Guest: SATAN'S RAPE CONTRACTOR (1436 days ago)
you faaaake lying C*NT! yo take the test and it gives you a link from politicalcompass with the image and meaning of the results! ya, manipulative lying propagandist piece of sheit fascist codger f*ck! you have no fekin clue, do you?ya just posted a link from the right wing folder... ya propagandist f*ck!
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you faaaake lying C*NT! yo take the test and it gives you a link from politicalcompass with the image and meaning of the results! ya, manipulative lying propagandist piece of sheit fascist codger f*ck! you have no fekin clue, do you?ya just posted a link from the right wing folder... ya propagandist f*ck!
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cengland0 cengland0 (1436 days ago)
I don't need to prove myself to you. Even if I did, I doubt there would be any proof I could provide that would be sufficient for you to believe me. Therefore, this conversation is over.
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I don't need to prove myself to you. Even if I did, I doubt there would be any proof I could provide that would be sufficient for you to believe me. Therefore, this conversation is over.
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Guest: SATAN'S RAPE CONTRACTOR (1436 days ago)
you can't prove sheit, because you're a sheit liar! F*CK YOU! you're worth Sheit!
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you can't prove sheit, because you're a sheit liar! F*CK YOU! you're worth Sheit!
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WalterEgo WalterEgo (1436 days ago)
Can you post that test page link again, I can't find it.
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Can you post that test page link again, I can't find it.
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cengland0 cengland0 (1436 days ago)
Here it is: LINK
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Here it is: LINK
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WalterEgo WalterEgo (1436 days ago)
Here are my results: LINK Make of that what you will.
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Here are my results: LINK Make of that what you will.
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cengland0 cengland0 (1436 days ago)
Thanks for posting that. I see you're more libertarian than I am and I did not expect that. Also, you are very left and I'm a little right. This explains some of the disagreements we have (left versus right not Authoritarian versus Libertarian).
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Thanks for posting that. I see you're more libertarian than I am and I did not expect that. Also, you are very left and I'm a little right. This explains some of the disagreements we have (left versus right not Authoritarian versus Libertarian).
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WalterEgo WalterEgo (1435 days ago)
I'd take the test with a pinch of salt though. According to the international chart, Obama is way more right than you - he's as far right as I am left! Our Labour (equivalent to your Democrat) leader Ed Milliband is also significantly more right than you. LINK I can tell you for a fact, anyone from the UK who has followed your posts would find that amusing.
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I'd take the test with a pinch of salt though. According to the international chart, Obama is way more right than you - he's as far right as I am left! Our Labour (equivalent to your Democrat) leader Ed Milliband is also significantly more right than you. LINK I can tell you for a fact, anyone from the UK who has followed your posts would find that amusing.
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cengland0 cengland0 (1435 days ago)
Latest comment: I agree with you. Obama is clearly more left than that chart shows but it's probably true that he's authoritarian. I think mine is pretty accurate though. I've taken several of these tests in the past and I'm always showing as libertarian and a little right.
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Latest comment: I agree with you. Obama is clearly more left than that chart shows but it's probably true that he's authoritarian. I think mine is pretty accurate though. I've taken several of these tests in the past and I'm always showing as libertarian and a little right.
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Guest: dcmuk (1437 days ago)
Let's face it, the US needs an export market somewhere- you never see any US made goods in Europe, apart from computer software and Apple phones. (which are made in China)
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Let's face it, the US needs an export market somewhere- you never see any US made goods in Europe, apart from computer software and Apple phones. (which are made in China)
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cengland0 cengland0 (1436 days ago)
LINK America shipped $1.5 trillion worth of goods around the globe, up 19% since 2008. We imported $2.3 trillion. Only $352 billion was from China. Global Oil imports were higher at $433 billion. Top 2012 US Exports. $215 billion in machines and engines. $162 billion in Electronic equipment. $137 billion in Oil. 132 billion in vehicles. $104 billion in air/spacecraft.
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LINK America shipped $1.5 trillion worth of goods around the globe, up 19% since 2008. We imported $2.3 trillion. Only $352 billion was from China. Global Oil imports were higher at $433 billion. Top 2012 US Exports. $215 billion in machines and engines. $162 billion in Electronic equipment. $137 billion in Oil. 132 billion in vehicles. $104 billion in air/spacecraft.
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Guest: SATAN'S RAPE CONTRACTOR (1436 days ago)
cut the crap LINK , codger f*ck!
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cut the crap LINK , codger f*ck!
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cengland0 cengland0 (1436 days ago)
I'm not going to listen to 27 minutes of babbling from some crappy YouTube video when I already have a link with real stats posted. If you want to show where I was wrong in what I linked and that proves some point you're trying to make, I will entertain it. Besides, I was responding to dcmuk where that person stated we need an export market somewhere so I fail to see how your reply brings any value to that discussion.
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I'm not going to listen to 27 minutes of babbling from some crappy YouTube video when I already have a link with real stats posted. If you want to show where I was wrong in what I linked and that proves some point you're trying to make, I will entertain it. Besides, I was responding to dcmuk where that person stated we need an export market somewhere so I fail to see how your reply brings any value to that discussion.
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Guest: SATAN'S RAPE CONTRACTOR (1436 days ago)
the point is: YOU'RE WORTH SHEIT! ya manipulative propagandist codger F*CK!!! i'm not talking corporate financed "real stats" with corporate propagandist manipulative liars like you , ya duck F*cking codger F*CK!!
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the point is: YOU'RE WORTH SHEIT! ya manipulative propagandist codger F*CK!!! i'm not talking corporate financed "real stats" with corporate propagandist manipulative liars like you , ya duck F*cking codger F*CK!!
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Guest: dcmuk (1436 days ago)
The fact is that America is fu**ed. It's national debt can NEVER and will never be paid off, unless ALL federal spending were reduced to nil for the next hundred years or so, and all taxes increased to about 90%. Therefore, the US government MUST do whatever it can to inject however much it can into the national economy, and if that means a few dodgy deals along the way, then so be it. The US is bankrupt, and if it were a small European country would be foreclosed upon right now. If it were a third world country, it's have UN soldiers crawling all over it to keep the people from killing each other for food. Desperate times need desperate measures....
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The fact is that America is fu**ed. It's national debt can NEVER and will never be paid off, unless ALL federal spending were reduced to nil for the next hundred years or so, and all taxes increased to about 90%. Therefore, the US government MUST do whatever it can to inject however much it can into the national economy, and if that means a few dodgy deals along the way, then so be it. The US is bankrupt, and if it were a small European country would be foreclosed upon right now. If it were a third world country, it's have UN soldiers crawling all over it to keep the people from killing each other for food. Desperate times need desperate measures....
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LogicIsPower LogicIsPower (1438 days ago)
oh man, this one is a stinker huh? I have to be honest, I do not know much about this, time to do some research.
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oh man, this one is a stinker huh? I have to be honest, I do not know much about this, time to do some research.
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