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Moving Platforms, how to travel by train without stopping

(2:40) Is the rail station is dead? Joined up rail infrastructure where local trams connect to non-stop high speed trains enabling passengers to travel from their local stop to another city without stopping. PriestmanGoode.com/

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Guest: Thorny Prick (1423 days ago)
a bloke with a grandiose unrealistic idea, who commissioned a animation clip and is tying to pitch it to the people who handles society's money as something brilliant, which is not. Basically, this man is trying to eliminate train stations with something that is hundreds of times more expensive. Elon Musk's rail thing seems to be a much better idea for fast travel, and cheaper too.
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a bloke with a grandiose unrealistic idea, who commissioned a animation clip and is tying to pitch it to the people who handles society's money as something brilliant, which is not. Basically, this man is trying to eliminate train stations with something that is hundreds of times more expensive. Elon Musk's rail thing seems to be a much better idea for fast travel, and cheaper too.
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Guest: PeterSam (958 days ago)
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Even if the idea wasn't so obviously technically impossible (any type of delay to a tram would force the train to stop and wait or simply to miss out whole towns/cities), hugely impractical (before the system could be put into practice, all rail lines would have to be moved so that they no longer ran through the towns/cities they serve) incredibly dangerous (there is a reason why trains, planes, cars and boats don't generally exchange cargo/passengers at full tilt) and hideously expensive (entirely new infrastructure for both trams and trains), it would still mean you simply had to wait at the tram stop rather than the train station.
Fail (shit graphics too).

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Even if the idea wasn't so obviously technically impossible (any type of delay to a tram would force the train to stop and wait or simply to miss out whole towns/cities), hugely impractical (before the system could be put into practice, all rail lines would have to be moved so that they no longer ran through the towns/cities they serve) incredibly dangerous (there is a reason why trains, planes, cars and boats don't generally exchange cargo/passengers at full tilt) and hideously expensive (entirely new infrastructure for both trams and trains), it would still mean you simply had to wait at the tram stop rather than the train station.
Fail (shit graphics too).

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Guest: Buster Gasket (1423 days ago)
All revolutionary inventions are ridiculed. Heavier than air flight was "impossible". Trains faster than horses would cause blackouts and or death. That being said, the technology described deserves thoughtful analysis. Here are my thoughts: Where do I catch the tram? Oh yes, a tram stop - or mini station. What happens when the tram is running late, does the express slow right down? What happens when the express is running late and misses another high speed interconnection running to schedule? What happens when an express breaks down - which it will, or is disrupted by a line blockage? It seems to me that the concept creates more problems than it solves. The concept might work with a brand new town or city, but in the over-crowded western infrastructures? Extremely unlikely, and very expensive. As it stands the return on investment would be highly questionable. Rather like the UK HS2 project: spend billions so as to get to Birmingham 10 mins quicker.
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All revolutionary inventions are ridiculed. Heavier than air flight was "impossible". Trains faster than horses would cause blackouts and or death. That being said, the technology described deserves thoughtful analysis. Here are my thoughts: Where do I catch the tram? Oh yes, a tram stop - or mini station. What happens when the tram is running late, does the express slow right down? What happens when the express is running late and misses another high speed interconnection running to schedule? What happens when an express breaks down - which it will, or is disrupted by a line blockage? It seems to me that the concept creates more problems than it solves. The concept might work with a brand new town or city, but in the over-crowded western infrastructures? Extremely unlikely, and very expensive. As it stands the return on investment would be highly questionable. Rather like the UK HS2 project: spend billions so as to get to Birmingham 10 mins quicker.
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Guest: Isambard Kingdom Bru (1420 days ago)
I know, why not have a long piece of concrete, next to coffee shops and news stands. Where the train can stop and safely disembark passengers at their chosen destination
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I know, why not have a long piece of concrete, next to coffee shops and news stands. Where the train can stop and safely disembark passengers at their chosen destination
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Guest: (1423 days ago)
And then the jealous kid terrorist shows up and bombs 4 trains at once, what will your moving platform do then ?
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And then the jealous kid terrorist shows up and bombs 4 trains at once, what will your moving platform do then ?
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guest123456789 guest123456789 (1423 days ago)
Will not work for high capacity station replacements. Imagine if hundreds of people wanted to get on the train and hundreds wanted to get off at the same time. And then what about the handicapped people that need assistance getting across the platform. I think you would have a better idea if you swapped out an entire train car. Remove a car with people wanting to get off and attach a new car with people wanting to get on. Logistically makes more sense.
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Will not work for high capacity station replacements. Imagine if hundreds of people wanted to get on the train and hundreds wanted to get off at the same time. And then what about the handicapped people that need assistance getting across the platform. I think you would have a better idea if you swapped out an entire train car. Remove a car with people wanting to get off and attach a new car with people wanting to get on. Logistically makes more sense.
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WalterEgo WalterEgo (1422 days ago)
I think this is a brilliant idea. The problems you cite are not problems - actually, this idea solves those problems. The maximum number of people who can cross over is limited to the length of the tram or train. The train and tram could be locked together for 10 minutes while people cross, with both trains travelling quite slowly. Handicapped people would find it easier because the train and tram are the same level - it would be just like moving from one part of a room to another. The other advantage is that you can change high speed trains without stopping - so if you are travelling from London to Amsterdam, then you'd take the Eurostar to Paris and change to the Barcelona/Amsterdam high speed train that comes up alongside once in France. At the moment you have to take the Paris train to Lille, stop, and wait for the train to Amsterdam. It's genius.
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I think this is a brilliant idea. The problems you cite are not problems - actually, this idea solves those problems. The maximum number of people who can cross over is limited to the length of the tram or train. The train and tram could be locked together for 10 minutes while people cross, with both trains travelling quite slowly. Handicapped people would find it easier because the train and tram are the same level - it would be just like moving from one part of a room to another. The other advantage is that you can change high speed trains without stopping - so if you are travelling from London to Amsterdam, then you'd take the Eurostar to Paris and change to the Barcelona/Amsterdam high speed train that comes up alongside once in France. At the moment you have to take the Paris train to Lille, stop, and wait for the train to Amsterdam. It's genius.
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WalterEgo WalterEgo (1422 days ago)
Removing or adding cars won't work. Trains can be very long and thin and it makes no sense to have access points at the ends. Imagine trying to get to the back of the train to get off if you were seated at the front, while trying to pass people who got on at the back trying to get to their reserved seats at the front. And if you are handicapped...
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Removing or adding cars won't work. Trains can be very long and thin and it makes no sense to have access points at the ends. Imagine trying to get to the back of the train to get off if you were seated at the front, while trying to pass people who got on at the back trying to get to their reserved seats at the front. And if you are handicapped...
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guest123456789 guest123456789 (1422 days ago)
Your logic is flawed then. Using your same scenario, what about the people in the front wanting to get off when the other train is next to it. They still have to migrate to the exit which could be in the middle. The same people getting off and on will all be in the same general location unless both trains are quite large. Removing a car and adding a new one is a good solution because you're not rushed at all. If you know your stop is next and that's an hour from now, you can begin going to the proper car. With your method of the two trains being attached for 10 minutes seems a bit ridiculous because these were portrayed as high speed trains. How far have those trains travelled in those 10 minutes. One of them will need to return back to its starting position and the further it goes, the more fuel it will use. If someone was at the end of the line and took too long to board, the trains could detach and people fall on the tracks and die. For someone concerned about global warming, you should be thinking of ways for us to save energy and not use more of it.
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Your logic is flawed then. Using your same scenario, what about the people in the front wanting to get off when the other train is next to it. They still have to migrate to the exit which could be in the middle. The same people getting off and on will all be in the same general location unless both trains are quite large. Removing a car and adding a new one is a good solution because you're not rushed at all. If you know your stop is next and that's an hour from now, you can begin going to the proper car. With your method of the two trains being attached for 10 minutes seems a bit ridiculous because these were portrayed as high speed trains. How far have those trains travelled in those 10 minutes. One of them will need to return back to its starting position and the further it goes, the more fuel it will use. If someone was at the end of the line and took too long to board, the trains could detach and people fall on the tracks and die. For someone concerned about global warming, you should be thinking of ways for us to save energy and not use more of it.
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WalterEgo WalterEgo (1422 days ago)
Please don't be a designer.
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Please don't be a designer.
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guest123456789 guest123456789 (1422 days ago)
I'd put money on it that no city will implement it the way shown in the video during my lifetime.
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I'd put money on it that no city will implement it the way shown in the video during my lifetime.
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WalterEgo WalterEgo (1422 days ago)
There you might be right - but not because it is not a brilliant idea. As far as I can see, the downside is that you'd need new trains, trams and track. My guess is it would first appear as 2 high speed trains coming together to swap passengers, and then if that worked, city trams could join in. Probably when new cities and new high speed lines are being planned from scratch, rather than trying to adapt old cities like Paris, London or Birmingham. Maybe in China or India? I really hope it happens somewhere.
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There you might be right - but not because it is not a brilliant idea. As far as I can see, the downside is that you'd need new trains, trams and track. My guess is it would first appear as 2 high speed trains coming together to swap passengers, and then if that worked, city trams could join in. Probably when new cities and new high speed lines are being planned from scratch, rather than trying to adapt old cities like Paris, London or Birmingham. Maybe in China or India? I really hope it happens somewhere.
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guest123456789 guest123456789 (1422 days ago)
Why don't you ever consider the cost versus benefit of things? How many billions would that cost and what savings to the community would there be? People cannot wait 10 minutes while the train stops? Just create a faster train to go 1 mph faster to make up for the time. There are so many other options. This one in the video looks like it takes too much real estate and has a lot of risk involved.
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Why don't you ever consider the cost versus benefit of things? How many billions would that cost and what savings to the community would there be? People cannot wait 10 minutes while the train stops? Just create a faster train to go 1 mph faster to make up for the time. There are so many other options. This one in the video looks like it takes too much real estate and has a lot of risk involved.
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