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Tony Benn's 10 min history lesson

Tony Benn's 10 min history lesson

(10:35) A man of genuine passion and intellect, British Labour politician Tony Benn gives a succinct history of how we got here.

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Guest: (1345 days ago)

What people don't realise is that 'the right' are of a particular psychological persuasion - a kind of evolutionary throw back, an under-developed awareness combined with a general lack of societal usefulness.

This is a product of obedience to hierarchy, which our schools, universities and corporations foster.

Their uselessness often leads them towards learning that cheating and lying works because they have no other options to succeed when competing against the useful who don't need to cheat.

This is dangerous to civilisation because we are constantly promoting the most useless people to positions of power because we delegate administrational tasks to mechanisms of hierarchy.

The useful people find useful things to do, they find their own paths, thank god.

But eventually the useless manage to get in the way of the useful. This is a major sign of entropy.

The longer hierarchical structures exist, the more they get corrupted by the useless. See the major banks for example, in particular see the insane state that has become of economics profession - carrying on with their dogma even after foundational ideas have been proven false.

Administrative hierarchies get designed by the useful when rebuilding after the destruction caused by the useless and then overtime they disintegrate because they get overrun by the compounded problems of many generations of the useless.

We need to accept that obedience to hierarchy is the problem and design distributed administrative structures as well as offering the useless some means of enjoying life whilst not being able to influence anything.

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What people don't realise is that 'the right' are of a particular psychological persuasion - a kind of evolutionary throw back, an under-developed awareness combined with a general lack of societal usefulness.

This is a product of obedience to hierarchy, which our schools, universities and corporations foster.

Their uselessness often leads them towards learning that cheating and lying works because they have no other options to succeed when competing against the useful who don't need to cheat.

This is dangerous to civilisation because we are constantly promoting the most useless people to positions of power because we delegate administrational tasks to mechanisms of hierarchy.

The useful people find useful things to do, they find their own paths, thank god.

But eventually the useless manage to get in the way of the useful. This is a major sign of entropy.

The longer hierarchical structures exist, the more they get corrupted by the useless. See the major banks for example, in particular see the insane state that has become of economics profession - carrying on with their dogma even after foundational ideas have been proven false.

Administrative hierarchies get designed by the useful when rebuilding after the destruction caused by the useless and then overtime they disintegrate because they get overrun by the compounded problems of many generations of the useless.

We need to accept that obedience to hierarchy is the problem and design distributed administrative structures as well as offering the useless some means of enjoying life whilst not being able to influence anything.

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Guest: Sat (1345 days ago)

a bit harsh there mate, calling right wingers useless.

I see what you're saying but you lose credibility because of this generalisation.

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a bit harsh there mate, calling right wingers useless.

I see what you're saying but you lose credibility because of this generalisation.

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Guest: originalmad (1344 days ago)

Dont worry, Us non socialists know socialists are just immature, ask Winston Churchill

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Dont worry, Us non socialists know socialists are just immature, ask Winston Churchill

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Guest: Sat (1344 days ago)

I see what you're saying but you lose credibility because of this generalisation.

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I see what you're saying but you lose credibility because of this generalisation.

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Guest: originalmad (1344 days ago)

It was quite a famous quote.

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It was quite a famous quote.

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Guest: Sat (1349 days ago)

Loved it!! MORE OF THIS PLEASE!

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Loved it!! MORE OF THIS PLEASE!

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Guest: originalmad (1349 days ago)

i actually met him. Very principled, but he regarded himself as a failure

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i actually met him. Very principled, but he regarded himself as a failure

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Guest: (1349 days ago)

Well pronounced? perhaps.. But a load of communist crap nevertheless!!

There is a reason why ALL so called "socialist' economies collapsed and the reason is very simple.. if you make it public, you basically make it NOBODY's!!

It has been tried, never works.. never will!

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Well pronounced? perhaps.. But a load of communist crap nevertheless!!

There is a reason why ALL so called "socialist' economies collapsed and the reason is very simple.. if you make it public, you basically make it NOBODY's!!

It has been tried, never works.. never will!

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Guest: Satan's Asshole (1349 days ago)

eat shit and die

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eat shit and die

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Guest: Submitted as a guest (1348 days ago)

Thats socialist crap to you sir, it has nothing to do about communism - You need to have your facts in order.

Communism wants all the private sectors to be controlled by the state, as for socialistic states, they wants good deal of public And private sectors to work correspondingly. You get to pay a bit higher procentage i tax, but get in return a lot of free public benefits instead.

The nordic countrys are all socialistic economies, and working quite well indeed. Free hospital, schools ect.

So, all in all your are wrong, and need to get your facts in order. If not, you can eat shit as 'Satans Asshole' suggested.

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Thats socialist crap to you sir, it has nothing to do about communism - You need to have your facts in order.

Communism wants all the private sectors to be controlled by the state, as for socialistic states, they wants good deal of public And private sectors to work correspondingly. You get to pay a bit higher procentage i tax, but get in return a lot of free public benefits instead.

The nordic countrys are all socialistic economies, and working quite well indeed. Free hospital, schools ect.

So, all in all your are wrong, and need to get your facts in order. If not, you can eat shit as 'Satans Asshole' suggested.

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Guest: (1346 days ago)

all in all.. YOU are wrong!

socialism is only a mid-way to communism.. read your Marx for once!

if you perpetuate your vision of socialism, I suggest studies of a REAL socialism in action.. just go to any country in eastern europe and see for yourself the hole thay are now trying to dig themself out of...

Scandinavians were in fact trying to build a hybrid system, but now pushing it back to 'normal' capitalism, they know by now that high taxes are in fact killing self motivation, drive for innovations and for progress..no society in the world can withstand 'socialist' economy for long and prosper ..

simple reality bites..

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all in all.. YOU are wrong!

socialism is only a mid-way to communism.. read your Marx for once!

if you perpetuate your vision of socialism, I suggest studies of a REAL socialism in action.. just go to any country in eastern europe and see for yourself the hole thay are now trying to dig themself out of...

Scandinavians were in fact trying to build a hybrid system, but now pushing it back to 'normal' capitalism, they know by now that high taxes are in fact killing self motivation, drive for innovations and for progress..no society in the world can withstand 'socialist' economy for long and prosper ..

simple reality bites..

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Guest: Satan's Asshole (1346 days ago)

you're full of shit!! you're making stuff up!

blow it out your fekin arse!

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you're full of shit!! you're making stuff up!

blow it out your fekin arse!

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Guest: Sat (1349 days ago)

can't blame him... thatcher-capitalists kinda won (oligarchs, corporatists, fascists, whatever you want to call them), but socialism is making a comeback, with readily available information on the internet and public anger rising..and all.

As far as i've heard, best years were 50's and 60's,after that...it went all to shit.

If i'm not mistaken, there was a balance between capitalism and socialism back then... even in america.

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can't blame him... thatcher-capitalists kinda won (oligarchs, corporatists, fascists, whatever you want to call them), but socialism is making a comeback, with readily available information on the internet and public anger rising..and all.

As far as i've heard, best years were 50's and 60's,after that...it went all to shit.

If i'm not mistaken, there was a balance between capitalism and socialism back then... even in america.

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Guest: originalmad (1343 days ago)
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Unfortunately yes, lessons learned the hard way are too quickly forgotten

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Unfortunately yes, lessons learned the hard way are too quickly forgotten

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