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TEDtalks - Which is the goodest country in the world?

TEDtalks - Which is the goodest country in the world?

(17:55) A side effect of globalisation is that problems that once would have stayed local - say a bank lending out too much money - now has global consequences. Independent policy advisor Simon Anholt discusses how nations understandably think inwardly, but need to think outwardly to solve problems created by globalisation.

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cengland0 cengland0 (1257 days ago)

Statistically invalid index. It is 100% subjective especially when determining the weighting/importance of each measurement. You can easily change the order of the countries by putting more emphasis on different categories. This was also done by a factor of population to GDP so it is much easier for a small country to make one achievement to become #1 in that category.

An example of subjectivity is in Science and Technology. One factor is “International students.” That does not determine how “good” a country is but can determine how desirable a degree from that country is in the workplace. Countries with more expensive schools tend to attract more international students but the schools do not do this for free but are for profit.

“Patents” is another category that may not be used correctly. If you patent something, that has nothing to do with the “good” of the planet but it is all to do about protecting your intellectual property so others are not allowed to use it without your permission. It also is the “Number of International Patent Cooperation Treaty applications relative to GDP.” It does nothing to determine the significance of each patent. So when a person like Elon Musk gives away all his patents to the public domain, does that count for South Africa because that is where he was born or Canada because his mother was from there or from Britain because of his father? Or does that count for The USA because Tesla is incorporated there?

Then you have the “International Peace and Security” index. One subcategory is Peacekeeping troops set overseas while another is number of casualties of international organized violence. That seems a bit unfair because if you are sending peacekeeping troops to a country, you are more likely to encounter violence. And then Arms exports are a negative indicator but could actually be used for peacekeeping purposes.

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Statistically invalid index. It is 100% subjective especially when determining the weighting/importance of each measurement. You can easily change the order of the countries by putting more emphasis on different categories. This was also done by a factor of population to GDP so it is much easier for a small country to make one achievement to become #1 in that category.

An example of subjectivity is in Science and Technology. One factor is “International students.” That does not determine how “good” a country is but can determine how desirable a degree from that country is in the workplace. Countries with more expensive schools tend to attract more international students but the schools do not do this for free but are for profit.

“Patents” is another category that may not be used correctly. If you patent something, that has nothing to do with the “good” of the planet but it is all to do about protecting your intellectual property so others are not allowed to use it without your permission. It also is the “Number of International Patent Cooperation Treaty applications relative to GDP.” It does nothing to determine the significance of each patent. So when a person like Elon Musk gives away all his patents to the public domain, does that count for South Africa because that is where he was born or Canada because his mother was from there or from Britain because of his father? Or does that count for The USA because Tesla is incorporated there?

Then you have the “International Peace and Security” index. One subcategory is Peacekeeping troops set overseas while another is number of casualties of international organized violence. That seems a bit unfair because if you are sending peacekeeping troops to a country, you are more likely to encounter violence. And then Arms exports are a negative indicator but could actually be used for peacekeeping purposes.

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Guest: SATANIC DILDO (1256 days ago)

pedantic as always, and yes the index is subjective but not invalid.

Policy makers take into consideration various indexes and they should include this one as well if they aren't doing it allready.

I happen to agree with this man's point of view and i wouldn't expect right wing libertarian war mongering bankers to agree with it.

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pedantic as always, and yes the index is subjective but not invalid.

Policy makers take into consideration various indexes and they should include this one as well if they aren't doing it allready.

I happen to agree with this man's point of view and i wouldn't expect right wing libertarian war mongering bankers to agree with it.

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cengland0 cengland0 (1256 days ago)

No problem if a policy maker wants to consider various indexes but the order of this list of countries is bogus. It's completely subjective because of the way the individual indexes are utilized and combined into a single index.

Regarding me: Libertarian, yes. Right wing, slightly. Banker, yes. War mongerer, no. Pedantic, yes (but that's a good thing).

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No problem if a policy maker wants to consider various indexes but the order of this list of countries is bogus. It's completely subjective because of the way the individual indexes are utilized and combined into a single index.

Regarding me: Libertarian, yes. Right wing, slightly. Banker, yes. War mongerer, no. Pedantic, yes (but that's a good thing).

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Guest: SATANIC DILDO (1256 days ago)

i disagree :)

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i disagree :)

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TheBob TheBob (1256 days ago)

If being pedantic is a good thing, I should point out the plural of "index" is "indices"

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If being pedantic is a good thing, I should point out the plural of "index" is "indices"

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cengland0 cengland0 (1256 days ago)

Thanks but I believe you can use it either way. According to the dictionary:

noun: index ; plural noun: indexes ; plural noun: indices ; noun: the Index

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Thanks but I believe you can use it either way. According to the dictionary:

noun: index ; plural noun: indexes ; plural noun: indices ; noun: the Index

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WalterEgo WalterEgo (1256 days ago)

I think being pedantic is a bad thing for these sorts of topics. It's good, even necessary, for some things like accounts, writing software, restoring Renaissance paintings etc. just not for "bigger" topics like globalisation, or religion, or the meaning of life etc.

On "big" topics, being pedantic distracts from the big picture. An example of this is on this very video. Simon Anholt is talking about the downside of globalisation, and you have focused on his indexes - which is not a problem in itself - but his talk is not about which countries are the goodest in the world, but about how nations need to look outwardly rather than inwardly (very relevant to issues like the EU and whether Scotland will vote for independence), and how our mindset needs to change from thinking in terms of competition, to thinking in terms of cooperation - because otherwise we can't deal with the bad stuff that globalisation brings.

There's a time and place for being pedantic, but I guess it's in your nature, so you are always pedantic, and as a result, you often miss the big picture. I've seen it in so many of your past comments.

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I think being pedantic is a bad thing for these sorts of topics. It's good, even necessary, for some things like accounts, writing software, restoring Renaissance paintings etc. just not for "bigger" topics like globalisation, or religion, or the meaning of life etc.

On "big" topics, being pedantic distracts from the big picture. An example of this is on this very video. Simon Anholt is talking about the downside of globalisation, and you have focused on his indexes - which is not a problem in itself - but his talk is not about which countries are the goodest in the world, but about how nations need to look outwardly rather than inwardly (very relevant to issues like the EU and whether Scotland will vote for independence), and how our mindset needs to change from thinking in terms of competition, to thinking in terms of cooperation - because otherwise we can't deal with the bad stuff that globalisation brings.

There's a time and place for being pedantic, but I guess it's in your nature, so you are always pedantic, and as a result, you often miss the big picture. I've seen it in so many of your past comments.

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cengland0 cengland0 (1256 days ago)

This particular video is titled, " Which is the goodest country in the world? " That is the subject chosen, not that we should look outwardly. He did mention that in the video but, you have to admit, you were really curious which countries were on top and which were on the bottom. If he wanted to refocus our attention, he could have left off all the detail data and just stated that every country should improve on their outward thinking without attempting to put countries in order.

Putting the countries in an arbitrary order that is completely subjective makes this an opinion of his instead of factual. It even ruins his credibility.

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This particular video is titled, " Which is the goodest country in the world? " That is the subject chosen, not that we should look outwardly. He did mention that in the video but, you have to admit, you were really curious which countries were on top and which were on the bottom. If he wanted to refocus our attention, he could have left off all the detail data and just stated that every country should improve on their outward thinking without attempting to put countries in order.

Putting the countries in an arbitrary order that is completely subjective makes this an opinion of his instead of factual. It even ruins his credibility.

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WalterEgo WalterEgo (1256 days ago)

Sure I was curious which country would top the index, which is why the title is such, but you've just done it again without even realising it.

It's like when Amanda Palmer wrote an open letter to the Daily Mail (UK right-wing gutter press) about their review of her gig at Glastonbury 2013. LINK

The back story is that when the Daily Mail reviewed her gig, they only wrote about her tit falling out of her bra (that did actually happen), but nothing about her music, or songs, or performance. LINK

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Sure I was curious which country would top the index, which is why the title is such, but you've just done it again without even realising it.

It's like when Amanda Palmer wrote an open letter to the Daily Mail (UK right-wing gutter press) about their review of her gig at Glastonbury 2013. LINK

The back story is that when the Daily Mail reviewed her gig, they only wrote about her tit falling out of her bra (that did actually happen), but nothing about her music, or songs, or performance. LINK

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Guest: SATANIC DILDO (1255 days ago)

LOL, them right wingers are nuts.

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LOL, them right wingers are nuts.

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Guest: (1254 days ago)

Your points are valid. Though I often disagree with you. Consider this, however... it is a first step. Consider refinement, before you dismiss out of hand.

Not sure myself where it would lead. But would like to watch the "Good Index" over the next...say... 50 years.

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Your points are valid. Though I often disagree with you. Consider this, however... it is a first step. Consider refinement, before you dismiss out of hand.

Not sure myself where it would lead. But would like to watch the "Good Index" over the next...say... 50 years.

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cengland0 cengland0 (1253 days ago)

But this "Good Index" is still bogus due to arbitrary weighting on category and subcategories. If all the countries came together and agreed upon the formula for this index, I wouldn't have a problem with it; however, it seems to have been created by one man without any global agreement.

Individually, some of those categories have merit and some do not. So, instead of trying to put countries into a list in an attempt to make one country look better than another, have a database of all the factors used so a country's leaders and citizens can look up each category and compare themselves with the rest of the world. Unfortunately for this particular speaker, this has already been done by other sites so his work is basically useless.

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But this "Good Index" is still bogus due to arbitrary weighting on category and subcategories. If all the countries came together and agreed upon the formula for this index, I wouldn't have a problem with it; however, it seems to have been created by one man without any global agreement.

Individually, some of those categories have merit and some do not. So, instead of trying to put countries into a list in an attempt to make one country look better than another, have a database of all the factors used so a country's leaders and citizens can look up each category and compare themselves with the rest of the world. Unfortunately for this particular speaker, this has already been done by other sites so his work is basically useless.

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Guest: (1253 days ago)

Since you are so pedantic, have you ever considered learning about the right side of your brain. It seems extremely undernourished. That's where you actually see the connectedness of things, and not just their differences. I think thats the paradigm shift that needs to happen for massive world problems to be solved. This man is not wrong or right, he is at least approaching the ballpark at what needs attention. Why put so much energy criticizing it?

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Since you are so pedantic, have you ever considered learning about the right side of your brain. It seems extremely undernourished. That's where you actually see the connectedness of things, and not just their differences. I think thats the paradigm shift that needs to happen for massive world problems to be solved. This man is not wrong or right, he is at least approaching the ballpark at what needs attention. Why put so much energy criticizing it?

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cengland0 cengland0 (1253 days ago)
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The reason I criticize has more to do with me being pessimistic instead of optimistic. It has nothing to do with which hemisphere you think I use more often.

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The reason I criticize has more to do with me being pessimistic instead of optimistic. It has nothing to do with which hemisphere you think I use more often.

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