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Joe Rogan - American War Machine

Joe Rogan - American War Machine

(9:37) Joe Rogan's podcast on the state of the world today. podcasts.joerogan.net

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TheBob TheBob (1155 days ago)

Different style of presentation, but essentially the same message as Russell Brand.

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Different style of presentation, but essentially the same message as Russell Brand.

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Guest: SS.ATM (1154 days ago)

he's ok but i like russle better.

Rogan is on pot, russle is not... i think... but yeah, do legalise industrial hemp and medicinal marijuana... recrational is ok too.

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he's ok but i like russle better.

Rogan is on pot, russle is not... i think... but yeah, do legalise industrial hemp and medicinal marijuana... recrational is ok too.

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WalterEgo WalterEgo (1155 days ago)

If the world ran on solar power, we wouldn't need half the wars we have, because the sun shines everywhere.

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If the world ran on solar power, we wouldn't need half the wars we have, because the sun shines everywhere.

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cengland0 cengland0 (1155 days ago)

So it is your opinion that most wars are due to countries trying to steal energy from another country? It has nothing to do with religion, revenge, ethnic cleansing, or bargaining failures?

I know you like to think that all wars are caused due to the need for oil but I assure you that thousands of years of wars were happening way before oil was an important commodity.

Tell me how much oil Alexander the Great got out of all his conquests or why the Byzantine empire acquired so much land in 555 AD?

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So it is your opinion that most wars are due to countries trying to steal energy from another country? It has nothing to do with religion, revenge, ethnic cleansing, or bargaining failures?

I know you like to think that all wars are caused due to the need for oil but I assure you that thousands of years of wars were happening way before oil was an important commodity.

Tell me how much oil Alexander the Great got out of all his conquests or why the Byzantine empire acquired so much land in 555 AD?

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TheBob TheBob (1155 days ago)

I'd say wars are mainly caused by nations wanting to acquire more power, prestige or resources. Would you not agree that this gives sufficient motivation to Alexander and Byzantium?

Currently oil is a major and desirable resource, hence the cause of a lot of modern conflict: it won't be too long before there is a war about fresh water.

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I'd say wars are mainly caused by nations wanting to acquire more power, prestige or resources. Would you not agree that this gives sufficient motivation to Alexander and Byzantium?

Currently oil is a major and desirable resource, hence the cause of a lot of modern conflict: it won't be too long before there is a war about fresh water.

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cengland0 cengland0 (1155 days ago)

I disagree. Look at the "Re Reasons for wars" paper published by Stanford for the main reasons for war. None of the main ones are due to resources.

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I disagree. Look at the "Re Reasons for wars" paper published by Stanford for the main reasons for war. None of the main ones are due to resources.

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TheBob TheBob (1154 days ago)

What was the British Empire (and consequent imperial wars) all about if not for resources? Why did Germany invade Russia in 1941? What was so important about the Falkland Islands? Why get rid of a dictator in Iraq but not Zimbabwe?

Not all wars are about resources (e.g. Vietnam), but a lot are.

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What was the British Empire (and consequent imperial wars) all about if not for resources? Why did Germany invade Russia in 1941? What was so important about the Falkland Islands? Why get rid of a dictator in Iraq but not Zimbabwe?

Not all wars are about resources (e.g. Vietnam), but a lot are.

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cengland0 cengland0 (1154 days ago)

Perhaps some are about resource but the university study shows it is not a major reason. And even if it was, it's not about the energy (a.k.a. oil) resource.

Oil is a recent commodity that is used during the industrial age. Obviously all wars prior to that could not be about oil. Looking at the modern wars like Vietnam, Korea, Bosnia, Iraq, Afghanistan, Israel/Palestine, and ISIS, none of those are about oil.

Some of you might think that we attacked Iraq after 9/11 for the oil but that is simply not true. Iraq does have oil and we did liberate the Iraqi people but they are selling their own oil and keeping the profits for themselves — just like before the war.

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Perhaps some are about resource but the university study shows it is not a major reason. And even if it was, it's not about the energy (a.k.a. oil) resource.

Oil is a recent commodity that is used during the industrial age. Obviously all wars prior to that could not be about oil. Looking at the modern wars like Vietnam, Korea, Bosnia, Iraq, Afghanistan, Israel/Palestine, and ISIS, none of those are about oil.

Some of you might think that we attacked Iraq after 9/11 for the oil but that is simply not true. Iraq does have oil and we did liberate the Iraqi people but they are selling their own oil and keeping the profits for themselves — just like before the war.

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TheBob TheBob (1154 days ago)

If Iraq wasn't about oil, what was it about? And if it was about getting rid of a dictator, why Saddam and not Mugabe?

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If Iraq wasn't about oil, what was it about? And if it was about getting rid of a dictator, why Saddam and not Mugabe?

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cengland0 cengland0 (1154 days ago)

The U.S. stated that the intent was to remove "a regime that developed and used weapons of mass destruction, that harbored and supported terrorists, committed outrageous human rights abuses, and defied the just demands of the United Nations and the world"

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The U.S. stated that the intent was to remove "a regime that developed and used weapons of mass destruction, that harbored and supported terrorists, committed outrageous human rights abuses, and defied the just demands of the United Nations and the world"

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TheBob TheBob (1154 days ago)

Mmm, yes... and Hitler invaded the Sudetenland to restore order.

Stated intents are not always the real ones.

Oh and "a regime that developed and used weapons of mass destruction, that harbored and supported terrorists, committed outrageous human rights abuses, and defied the just demands of the United Nations and the world" also describes the USA.

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Mmm, yes... and Hitler invaded the Sudetenland to restore order.

Stated intents are not always the real ones.

Oh and "a regime that developed and used weapons of mass destruction, that harbored and supported terrorists, committed outrageous human rights abuses, and defied the just demands of the United Nations and the world" also describes the USA.

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cengland0 cengland0 (1154 days ago)

If you think we liberated Iraq for their oil, why don’t we take their oil then?

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If you think we liberated Iraq for their oil, why don’t we take their oil then?

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TheBob TheBob (1154 days ago)

If you think we liberated Iraq for humanitarian reasons, why don’t we liberate Zimbabwe then?

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If you think we liberated Iraq for humanitarian reasons, why don’t we liberate Zimbabwe then?

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cengland0 cengland0 (1154 days ago)

No, we liberated them for the reasons I stated above.

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No, we liberated them for the reasons I stated above.

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TheBob TheBob (1154 days ago)
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Of course you did - and Exxon isn't profiting at all from Iraqi oil, there really were weapons of mass destruction that could be readied in 45 minutes and the Tooth Fairy will make it all better.

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Of course you did - and Exxon isn't profiting at all from Iraqi oil, there really were weapons of mass destruction that could be readied in 45 minutes and the Tooth Fairy will make it all better.

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Guest: (1155 days ago)

Alexander the Great wasn't American.

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Alexander the Great wasn't American.

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