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Bill Nye - Lessons from dog evolution

Bill Nye - Lessons from dog evolution

(3:22) Bill Nye the Science Guy discusses canine evolution, drawing a comparison between dog breeds and human races. Bill Nye's 'Undeniable: Evolution and the Science of Creation' is available from: Amazon.co.uk , and Amazon.com

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Guest: (1020 days ago)

Do Americans need to be told this???

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Do Americans need to be told this???

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Guest: (1020 days ago)

Yes. This constitutes a "big think" for Americans

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Yes. This constitutes a "big think" for Americans

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This is liberal nonsense masquerading as science.

All brreds of dogs and all mixes of dogs are dogs, but different breeds of dogs have different abilities and different appearances and different utility and different levels of intelligence.

So too dfferent breeds (or races) of people have different average levels of intelligence and different average levels of physical abilities. It is even too simplistic to divide people into just three major groupings.

Every geneticist knows which group has the highest intelligence level. Eveyone in sports knows where the best long distance runners come from and so on.

But due to political correctness and leftism and other stupidities, those running the show and other leftist pressure groups want us to think that everyone is the same.

But they are not. No one would expect a chihuahua to win in a fight of strength agains a German shepherd.

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This is liberal nonsense masquerading as science.

All brreds of dogs and all mixes of dogs are dogs, but different breeds of dogs have different abilities and different appearances and different utility and different levels of intelligence.

So too dfferent breeds (or races) of people have different average levels of intelligence and different average levels of physical abilities. It is even too simplistic to divide people into just three major groupings.

Every geneticist knows which group has the highest intelligence level. Eveyone in sports knows where the best long distance runners come from and so on.

But due to political correctness and leftism and other stupidities, those running the show and other leftist pressure groups want us to think that everyone is the same.

But they are not. No one would expect a chihuahua to win in a fight of strength agains a German shepherd.

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Guest: (1020 days ago)

..... and to think they have the A-Bomb...!

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..... and to think they have the A-Bomb...!

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MissAnneThrope MissAnneThrope (1020 days ago)

Dogs have the A-Bomb? I find that a little worrying...

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Dogs have the A-Bomb? I find that a little worrying...

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cengland0 cengland0 (1020 days ago)

Unless he is talking about mechanical engineering, I would take whatever Bill says with a grain of salt. For example, he says that there is no such thing as a purebred dog. Many breeders and scientific articles disagree with him on that and even specify what is required to be considered a purebred dog. Look up the term yourself and see how many articles there are defining what a purebred dog is.

The conversion from wolf to dog was not evolution and not just because wolfs have been around humans. It was caused by selective breeding. Recently, this has been recreated from wolfs again for verification. You take a pack of wolves and pick the few that contain the traits you desire and breed those. Continue the process over and over again through several generations until you get the desired breed of animal. It works.

Evolution is a natural process that occurs without human intervention. Survival of the fittest, adaptation, and natural section are some causes of evolution. Notice “natural selection” not “human selected.”

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Unless he is talking about mechanical engineering, I would take whatever Bill says with a grain of salt. For example, he says that there is no such thing as a purebred dog. Many breeders and scientific articles disagree with him on that and even specify what is required to be considered a purebred dog. Look up the term yourself and see how many articles there are defining what a purebred dog is.

The conversion from wolf to dog was not evolution and not just because wolfs have been around humans. It was caused by selective breeding. Recently, this has been recreated from wolfs again for verification. You take a pack of wolves and pick the few that contain the traits you desire and breed those. Continue the process over and over again through several generations until you get the desired breed of animal. It works.

Evolution is a natural process that occurs without human intervention. Survival of the fittest, adaptation, and natural section are some causes of evolution. Notice “natural selection” not “human selected.”

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Guest: Guesting (1020 days ago)

Interesting comment. But... if you think out of the box? What is survival of the fittest? And what exactly does the term evolution mean? Evolution is, well, development. But in the natural world it is evolution in the sense you refer to. Evolution is the species' (or rather the inidividuals') interaction with the environment. Those who are best 'fit' in the particular environment survive and breed. Survival of the fittest, in interaction with the environment, but it climate, plants, or other species (including humans who in one way or the other interact with other species). There are many examples of evolution in species due to human interaction. For dogs, with deliberate intervention. Who is fittest for surviving in the human environment?

I think your argument too much focuses on slow evolution, and one without intervention by other species. The slow ones are eaten by lions. The unfriendly ones are not allowed to breed by humans. Bacterias have become immune to antibiotics, a reaction to human intervention. In a sense, this is unintended selective breeding. And it is certainly evolution.

Think out of the box. It's still evolution, evolutionin genes through survival of those who fit the "environment" best.

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Interesting comment. But... if you think out of the box? What is survival of the fittest? And what exactly does the term evolution mean? Evolution is, well, development. But in the natural world it is evolution in the sense you refer to. Evolution is the species' (or rather the inidividuals') interaction with the environment. Those who are best 'fit' in the particular environment survive and breed. Survival of the fittest, in interaction with the environment, but it climate, plants, or other species (including humans who in one way or the other interact with other species). There are many examples of evolution in species due to human interaction. For dogs, with deliberate intervention. Who is fittest for surviving in the human environment?

I think your argument too much focuses on slow evolution, and one without intervention by other species. The slow ones are eaten by lions. The unfriendly ones are not allowed to breed by humans. Bacterias have become immune to antibiotics, a reaction to human intervention. In a sense, this is unintended selective breeding. And it is certainly evolution.

Think out of the box. It's still evolution, evolutionin genes through survival of those who fit the "environment" best.

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cengland0 cengland0 (1020 days ago)

Your definition can cover any type of change of a life. Would you consider the corn we use evolution or selective breeding teosinte grass from the ancient Mayans? Would you consider the genetically modified soy bean to be changed through evolution? In both of those scenarios, humans caused the change.

The definition of nature is “noun: the phenomena of the physical world collectively, including plants, animals, the landscape, and other features and products of the earth, as opposed to humans or human creations.”

Humans created the dog, corn, and modified soy beans. They are not derived through evolution.

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Your definition can cover any type of change of a life. Would you consider the corn we use evolution or selective breeding teosinte grass from the ancient Mayans? Would you consider the genetically modified soy bean to be changed through evolution? In both of those scenarios, humans caused the change.

The definition of nature is “noun: the phenomena of the physical world collectively, including plants, animals, the landscape, and other features and products of the earth, as opposed to humans or human creations.”

Humans created the dog, corn, and modified soy beans. They are not derived through evolution.

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Guest: Guesting (1020 days ago)

Evolution of genes I said... due to influence from the environment, with natural breeding (mating/sex, so not GM). But I find your arguments good and interesting.

Take the definition in your Encyclopedia. How does it fit with bacterias who have become resistent to antibiotics? We agree that this is an example of evolution, I assume?

(But I think your Encyclopedia sucks. Defining humans out of nature is strange, but I agree that the modern human lives outside nature). Humans are animals and thus part of nature.

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Evolution of genes I said... due to influence from the environment, with natural breeding (mating/sex, so not GM). But I find your arguments good and interesting.

Take the definition in your Encyclopedia. How does it fit with bacterias who have become resistent to antibiotics? We agree that this is an example of evolution, I assume?

(But I think your Encyclopedia sucks. Defining humans out of nature is strange, but I agree that the modern human lives outside nature). Humans are animals and thus part of nature.

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cengland0 cengland0 (1020 days ago)

To make this discussion more interesting, humans also evolve. The neanderthal and homosapiens have a common ancestor that we both evolved from. Humans are changing all the time. Cancer is a mutation of a cell that was bad for the body but some other mutations are good.

Good mutations happen all the time. Disputable, but Sickle Cell was created while putting people in a malaria infested location while building the Panama canal. People with Sickle Cell have the ability to fend off malaria. Many people died from the malaria, some people adapted and lived. If you’re not in a malaria area, you wouldn’t want Sickle Cell because it comes with its own problems.

Viruses like the flu evolves through the process of natural selection. Humans are not doing it purposely but it is happening to us. The Influenza virus mutates like many other cells and the viruses are killed by immunities in the body or an unnatural immunity induced by a flu shot. Most of the virus is killed but those that didn’t die live on to spread to other people and make additional copies of themselves. Those mutations would have occurred regardless if we had an immunity or not. The immunity helps kill off the non-mutated strains.

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To make this discussion more interesting, humans also evolve. The neanderthal and homosapiens have a common ancestor that we both evolved from. Humans are changing all the time. Cancer is a mutation of a cell that was bad for the body but some other mutations are good.

Good mutations happen all the time. Disputable, but Sickle Cell was created while putting people in a malaria infested location while building the Panama canal. People with Sickle Cell have the ability to fend off malaria. Many people died from the malaria, some people adapted and lived. If you’re not in a malaria area, you wouldn’t want Sickle Cell because it comes with its own problems.

Viruses like the flu evolves through the process of natural selection. Humans are not doing it purposely but it is happening to us. The Influenza virus mutates like many other cells and the viruses are killed by immunities in the body or an unnatural immunity induced by a flu shot. Most of the virus is killed but those that didn’t die live on to spread to other people and make additional copies of themselves. Those mutations would have occurred regardless if we had an immunity or not. The immunity helps kill off the non-mutated strains.

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Guest: Guesting (1020 days ago)

I intended to withdraw from the discussion now, I need to do some work on the computer.

I agree with all of your points in the last post, except, I'm ignorant on the Sickle Cell. I'll look it up. (I'm not into biology, I'm into psychology / social science.)

Thanks for the chat. I enjoyed it!

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I intended to withdraw from the discussion now, I need to do some work on the computer.

I agree with all of your points in the last post, except, I'm ignorant on the Sickle Cell. I'll look it up. (I'm not into biology, I'm into psychology / social science.)

Thanks for the chat. I enjoyed it!

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