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Bill Maher - Je Suis Charlie

Bill Maher - Je Suis Charlie

(15:21) Bill Maher and panelists Salman Rushdie, Carly Fiorina and Paul Begala discuss the recent terror attacks on Charlie Hebdo in Paris.

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WalterEgo WalterEgo (1016 days ago)

Salmon Rushdie said Anonymous will take down every jihadist site they could find. What a brilliant idea!

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Salmon Rushdie said Anonymous will take down every jihadist site they could find. What a brilliant idea!

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Guest: michalz (1017 days ago)

great pitty Hitchens could not have been on that debate.

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great pitty Hitchens could not have been on that debate.

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Guest: Sober (1014 days ago)

The same way people of the west believe in democracy and free market, people of the east believe in their god. When democratic values are questionned, or so western leaders think, we see liberation troops deployed. Well, this recent attach is eastern troops deployed abroad. Journalists should've kept their mouths shut, especially given the fact that the only reason those cartoons are published is to sell more copies and generate profit for the newspaper (which is, above all, a business).

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The same way people of the west believe in democracy and free market, people of the east believe in their god. When democratic values are questionned, or so western leaders think, we see liberation troops deployed. Well, this recent attach is eastern troops deployed abroad. Journalists should've kept their mouths shut, especially given the fact that the only reason those cartoons are published is to sell more copies and generate profit for the newspaper (which is, above all, a business).

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dananddiana dananddiana (1014 days ago)

And the terrorists should have kept their guns holstered! Free speech is ... FREE SPEECH! The satirize all religions. Islam is not specially picked out. The problem is... Islamists are so bloody full of themselves, they think they are better than anyone else, They believe in killing and subjugating the whole world to fit their agenda, Which is to turn the planet in to a caliphate!

Who the hell do they think they are? Civilized people ignore things that they do not like but is harming no one. barbarians kill innocent people and children for whatever they believe. Don't say anything about the innocent people killed in wars because, They are not specifically targeted and are avoided when possible. Islamists TARGET the innocent! They behead children! How dare you try and justify any of it by blaming drawings??? Are you so stupid that you can really rationalize it? How about I come and kill you for what you just said because I disagree with it? No? ... Then you had better just keep your fingers away from the keyboard because if one group of people are allowed to murder because they do not like something someone else had drawn or said, then everyone should be able to do the same!!! You sympathizers make me sick!

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And the terrorists should have kept their guns holstered! Free speech is ... FREE SPEECH! The satirize all religions. Islam is not specially picked out. The problem is... Islamists are so bloody full of themselves, they think they are better than anyone else, They believe in killing and subjugating the whole world to fit their agenda, Which is to turn the planet in to a caliphate!

Who the hell do they think they are? Civilized people ignore things that they do not like but is harming no one. barbarians kill innocent people and children for whatever they believe. Don't say anything about the innocent people killed in wars because, They are not specifically targeted and are avoided when possible. Islamists TARGET the innocent! They behead children! How dare you try and justify any of it by blaming drawings??? Are you so stupid that you can really rationalize it? How about I come and kill you for what you just said because I disagree with it? No? ... Then you had better just keep your fingers away from the keyboard because if one group of people are allowed to murder because they do not like something someone else had drawn or said, then everyone should be able to do the same!!! You sympathizers make me sick!

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Guest: Sober (1013 days ago)

Its not about free speech any more when you offend a large group of people for no apparent reason, but for their beliefs. Why satirizing gays is wrong and satirizing religion is right? As a westener you think all religions are the same and if you can chose to make fun of christianity, then surely muslims can and should make fun of their religion and let others do the same. But the world is different and people are different. Deal with it. Also, are you sure they believe in killing and subjugating? For all I know (in my 30+ years of living and from history studyies) christians killed more muslims in their crusades in middle ages and in modern times then muslims killed christians in the same period. Makes me wonder who's caliphating whom...

It seems you are mad that barbarians are barbarians. If you do not want to get hurt do not by yourself a lion cub. If you did, dont be surprised it bites your arm off...But it seems that you are surprised and now you want your lion be punished. How stupid and irrational!

Finally, please feel free to try whatever if you disagree, but do not be surprised if you get a corresponding response. In your anger, strive for personal wealth and belief in universal rights "civilized" people like yourself stopped making sense a long time ago.

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Its not about free speech any more when you offend a large group of people for no apparent reason, but for their beliefs. Why satirizing gays is wrong and satirizing religion is right? As a westener you think all religions are the same and if you can chose to make fun of christianity, then surely muslims can and should make fun of their religion and let others do the same. But the world is different and people are different. Deal with it. Also, are you sure they believe in killing and subjugating? For all I know (in my 30+ years of living and from history studyies) christians killed more muslims in their crusades in middle ages and in modern times then muslims killed christians in the same period. Makes me wonder who's caliphating whom...

It seems you are mad that barbarians are barbarians. If you do not want to get hurt do not by yourself a lion cub. If you did, dont be surprised it bites your arm off...But it seems that you are surprised and now you want your lion be punished. How stupid and irrational!

Finally, please feel free to try whatever if you disagree, but do not be surprised if you get a corresponding response. In your anger, strive for personal wealth and belief in universal rights "civilized" people like yourself stopped making sense a long time ago.

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dananddiana dananddiana (1013 days ago)

You are damned right that I have Anger and disgust! No one can justify murdering women. children and unarmed men because they have different beliefs. The west does not kill Muslims because they are not Christians! Other religions do not murder innocent people because they have said or done something which they dislike. You cannot in any way shape or form justify this barbaric behavior! I bought NOTHING! I live in my own country and practice my right to free speech. Islamists CANNOT take that away from me! If anyone doesn't like what I say, They do not have to listen or read it. They are free to ignore me! Civilized people do exactly that. Satire is used for just about anyone and everything. Yes we include Gays in that, What on earth made you think that we didn't? I am Black/White and a woman. I have been the butt of many joke by many comedians etc. I may not agree with what they say but I don't grab a gun and go on a murdering spree! I am also an Atheist and cannot believe that anyone would carry their religion to the point of murdering innocent people in this day and age. Yeas Christians and other religions were guilty of barbaric behavior, but that was back then. Western society has progressed to include and allow differences. We do not kill people for wanting to change their religion, We do not kill people because they are Gay or have committed adultery or have laughed at what we believe in! These terrorists are madmen and need to be killed before they attack more innocents! Look at ISIS Kidnapping young girls and using then as sex slaves, All in the name of Allah! I spit on that name and anyone who believes that these people are justified in what they have done and are doing! They are killing all over the world in the name of Allah. This time they blame "Blasphemy" what about all the others that did not commit blasphemy? They use any excuse to kill and cannot be allowed to continue. I don't go to the middle eastern countries and mess with their laws and beliefs, 1 Because it is THEIR country, 2 Because they would kill me for doing it. Why is it different when they come to MY country? Hypocrite!!

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You are damned right that I have Anger and disgust! No one can justify murdering women. children and unarmed men because they have different beliefs. The west does not kill Muslims because they are not Christians! Other religions do not murder innocent people because they have said or done something which they dislike. You cannot in any way shape or form justify this barbaric behavior! I bought NOTHING! I live in my own country and practice my right to free speech. Islamists CANNOT take that away from me! If anyone doesn't like what I say, They do not have to listen or read it. They are free to ignore me! Civilized people do exactly that. Satire is used for just about anyone and everything. Yes we include Gays in that, What on earth made you think that we didn't? I am Black/White and a woman. I have been the butt of many joke by many comedians etc. I may not agree with what they say but I don't grab a gun and go on a murdering spree! I am also an Atheist and cannot believe that anyone would carry their religion to the point of murdering innocent people in this day and age. Yeas Christians and other religions were guilty of barbaric behavior, but that was back then. Western society has progressed to include and allow differences. We do not kill people for wanting to change their religion, We do not kill people because they are Gay or have committed adultery or have laughed at what we believe in! These terrorists are madmen and need to be killed before they attack more innocents! Look at ISIS Kidnapping young girls and using then as sex slaves, All in the name of Allah! I spit on that name and anyone who believes that these people are justified in what they have done and are doing! They are killing all over the world in the name of Allah. This time they blame "Blasphemy" what about all the others that did not commit blasphemy? They use any excuse to kill and cannot be allowed to continue. I don't go to the middle eastern countries and mess with their laws and beliefs, 1 Because it is THEIR country, 2 Because they would kill me for doing it. Why is it different when they come to MY country? Hypocrite!!

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Guest: Sober (1012 days ago)

I hear you that you do not travel to those countries and that killing children is bad. And I agree.

But have you heard of the recent liberation operations in Iraq, Afghanistan and Syria? They are paid for by your tax money, and decisions to go to those countries are made by politicians you vote for (or, if you do not vote, then by people you let to win the election by not opposing them). You personally might not be going to those countries and you personally might think that a spoken or written word can do no harm to another. But muslim perspective is very different from yours. Since people like yourself (who have never been to those countries and who's would view is based on reports by bbc, cnn and fox news) say that they "...have to be killed before they attack" (i.e. preventive strike, which means that nothing happened just yet, but you already sending troops to execute somebody without proper right to fair trial), in real life western troops are on the ground there right now, killing men, women and children, just like in those barbaric times (which you say are long-gone). And I am not talking about collateral damage, but strikes targeting civilians - there were far too many since 9.11. I see the Paris attack as a result of those "preventive" strikes, which are made primarily to control oil and water reserves, secure labour resources and build miltary bases. Basically, you have to understand that the only reason you are able to yell about free speech on every corner is because somewhere in China there is a 6-year old buy working 12-hours a day for a mere cup of rice.

And I haven't heard of a single march in the US or in Europe to remember those innosent civilians who died in those attacks. Which proves to me yet again that a western life is much more valuable than that of a person from any other country. So, who is a hyporcite here?

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I hear you that you do not travel to those countries and that killing children is bad. And I agree.

But have you heard of the recent liberation operations in Iraq, Afghanistan and Syria? They are paid for by your tax money, and decisions to go to those countries are made by politicians you vote for (or, if you do not vote, then by people you let to win the election by not opposing them). You personally might not be going to those countries and you personally might think that a spoken or written word can do no harm to another. But muslim perspective is very different from yours. Since people like yourself (who have never been to those countries and who's would view is based on reports by bbc, cnn and fox news) say that they "...have to be killed before they attack" (i.e. preventive strike, which means that nothing happened just yet, but you already sending troops to execute somebody without proper right to fair trial), in real life western troops are on the ground there right now, killing men, women and children, just like in those barbaric times (which you say are long-gone). And I am not talking about collateral damage, but strikes targeting civilians - there were far too many since 9.11. I see the Paris attack as a result of those "preventive" strikes, which are made primarily to control oil and water reserves, secure labour resources and build miltary bases. Basically, you have to understand that the only reason you are able to yell about free speech on every corner is because somewhere in China there is a 6-year old buy working 12-hours a day for a mere cup of rice.

And I haven't heard of a single march in the US or in Europe to remember those innosent civilians who died in those attacks. Which proves to me yet again that a western life is much more valuable than that of a person from any other country. So, who is a hyporcite here?

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dananddiana dananddiana (1012 days ago)

You know... I hear terrorists loud and clear telling me that they want me dead just because I am an "infidel" They want Jews dead just because they are Jews! I hear them saying that they want the whole world to be a Caliphate. I read in the Koran that Allah want's his followers to kill in his name, To kill all Jews and unbelievers. That there is no excuse for a man to not wage "Jihad" for Allah unless he is too sick or physically unable. I do not hear these people screaming that they are doing it all because of what Americans have or have not done. I also want you to explain what America did to cause Muslims to kill each other and to rape innocent women and children and kill them? Is that because of what we have done? What happens in China or any other place that exploits children is on their own heads. The Chinese government is to blame! (I do not buy anything that I know was produced through child labor) Islamists use any excuse in the book to kill. They kill each other because one interpretation of the Koran is not the same as someone else's. I don't need Fox news or BBC to educate me. You need to stop accusing anyone who disagrees with you of getting their information from those places. You know... there are people who educate themselves. Who keep their eyes and ears open and can actually see what is going on. When I see Muslims opening schools in my home country and teaching the children that Jews are the devil, That westerners are bad, That killing and dying for Allah is good. (And please don't say that it is not true because you know as well as I do that it is damned true) when Muslims preach in Mosques in MY home country that we need to die because we are unbelievers. What the hell do you expect me to feel? I should say that going to Syria to kill people who are beheading innocent men women and children is somehow wrong? why don't you go ask the women and girls who are sex slaves etc if they think that we should not be trying to help them. BTW... What about prior to 9/11, Go do a bit of research and see just how many Muslim bombings of innocent people there have been
Prior to Americans going to Iraq etc. What was the excuse then? As far as I can see, Muslims consider themselves as being above everyone else, Of having the one true religion and have the need to make everyone the same as them. Just about every other religion think that they are the one true religion, Only Muslims go out and kill in their gods name on a regular basis, all over the world. The middle east murders people who just want to leave the religion, How bloody barbaric is that? They legally kill people for being Gay or for committing adultery, They are not even humane about it, No, They have to stone them to death, Teaching future generations how a human life counts for nothing and desensitizing them to brutality. You just want to blame a back wood culture and belief system on westerners. I am not a hypocrite buddy. There are still people in this world that want to blame themselves for what Muslims are doing but.. Sooner or later they are going to run out of excuses and will be forced to open their eyes to the fact that Muslims hate us all because Allah has told them that and has demanded the you kill us. Don't tell me that that is not in the Koran because I KNOW that it is!
You know what. I am going to stop here because I could go on all day with examples and facts but. I doubt that you care about reality.

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You know... I hear terrorists loud and clear telling me that they want me dead just because I am an "infidel" They want Jews dead just because they are Jews! I hear them saying that they want the whole world to be a Caliphate. I read in the Koran that Allah want's his followers to kill in his name, To kill all Jews and unbelievers. That there is no excuse for a man to not wage "Jihad" for Allah unless he is too sick or physically unable. I do not hear these people screaming that they are doing it all because of what Americans have or have not done. I also want you to explain what America did to cause Muslims to kill each other and to rape innocent women and children and kill them? Is that because of what we have done? What happens in China or any other place that exploits children is on their own heads. The Chinese government is to blame! (I do not buy anything that I know was produced through child labor) Islamists use any excuse in the book to kill. They kill each other because one interpretation of the Koran is not the same as someone else's. I don't need Fox news or BBC to educate me. You need to stop accusing anyone who disagrees with you of getting their information from those places. You know... there are people who educate themselves. Who keep their eyes and ears open and can actually see what is going on. When I see Muslims opening schools in my home country and teaching the children that Jews are the devil, That westerners are bad, That killing and dying for Allah is good. (And please don't say that it is not true because you know as well as I do that it is damned true) when Muslims preach in Mosques in MY home country that we need to die because we are unbelievers. What the hell do you expect me to feel? I should say that going to Syria to kill people who are beheading innocent men women and children is somehow wrong? why don't you go ask the women and girls who are sex slaves etc if they think that we should not be trying to help them. BTW... What about prior to 9/11, Go do a bit of research and see just how many Muslim bombings of innocent people there have been
Prior to Americans going to Iraq etc. What was the excuse then? As far as I can see, Muslims consider themselves as being above everyone else, Of having the one true religion and have the need to make everyone the same as them. Just about every other religion think that they are the one true religion, Only Muslims go out and kill in their gods name on a regular basis, all over the world. The middle east murders people who just want to leave the religion, How bloody barbaric is that? They legally kill people for being Gay or for committing adultery, They are not even humane about it, No, They have to stone them to death, Teaching future generations how a human life counts for nothing and desensitizing them to brutality. You just want to blame a back wood culture and belief system on westerners. I am not a hypocrite buddy. There are still people in this world that want to blame themselves for what Muslims are doing but.. Sooner or later they are going to run out of excuses and will be forced to open their eyes to the fact that Muslims hate us all because Allah has told them that and has demanded the you kill us. Don't tell me that that is not in the Koran because I KNOW that it is!
You know what. I am going to stop here because I could go on all day with examples and facts but. I doubt that you care about reality.

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Guest: Sober (1011 days ago)

You are being contradictory here: first you say chinese government is responsible for child labour (argument for country's sovereignty), then you say that America should go and help innosent women and children killed by militants (argument against sovereignty). So, you see: double standard.

Unlike western armies, islamic extrimists act on their own territories and fight their own governments. So Paris represent a reverse situation, when bloodshed was brought to western doorstep (basically, the same happens when a NATO plane bombs Baghdad, for example).

And about muslims in your country opening schools and preaching whatever they preach - they have the right to do so, right? Its their freedom of speech))) As you said, you might not like what they preach, but you cannot do anything about it.... but for some reason I have a feeling, that you think that you can and should do something about it...

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You are being contradictory here: first you say chinese government is responsible for child labour (argument for country's sovereignty), then you say that America should go and help innosent women and children killed by militants (argument against sovereignty). So, you see: double standard.

Unlike western armies, islamic extrimists act on their own territories and fight their own governments. So Paris represent a reverse situation, when bloodshed was brought to western doorstep (basically, the same happens when a NATO plane bombs Baghdad, for example).

And about muslims in your country opening schools and preaching whatever they preach - they have the right to do so, right? Its their freedom of speech))) As you said, you might not like what they preach, but you cannot do anything about it.... but for some reason I have a feeling, that you think that you can and should do something about it...

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dananddiana dananddiana (1011 days ago)

Don't "Have a feeling" about what I think. I say what I think!

Are you trying to equate child labor laws in China with outright rape and murder? Are you saying that we should just sit back and watch what is going on in Syria even when people are screaming for our help? Are you saying that Islamic extremists have not and are not killing all over this planet?....

They have been doing this for many many years. Your factual information is non existent. The laws in the west concerning free speech do NOT include the right to incite hatred! In fact people are jailed for inciting hatred. Sadly, for some reason Muslims seem to be getting away with that very thing. another example of western countries being too stupid or scared to do the right thing and treat Muslims EXACTLY the same as all of their other citizens,

You know.... I just cannot believe that you said that Islamic extremists stay and fight in their own countries and the west doesn't????? You must live in a vacuum or in denial.

I see that you do not try and justify any of the statements I made about Islamic laws, about their barbaric treatment of human beings etc. So You cannot argue about known facts that are cruel and unjust everyone can see, You cannot argue that Muslims are taught from a young age how westerners and Jews are nasty and dirty need to die. So you just ignore that and try to compare murder of innocent people to child labor laws. You just conveniently ignore the fact that Islamists have murdered and bombed in Australia, Paris, Spain, England, France, The USA, Bali, and many many more countries that have NOT bombed anyone nor drawn pictures of Mohamed, nor made videos. and before you latch on to the pictures and videos as an example of "Hate speech" like some other Muslims have said. Caricature and satire are NOT hate. Ridiculing someone or some thing is NOT hate.

Somewhere along to way Muslims have created countries where music, dancing, singing, just plain basic fun, Has been made illegal. If a human being is presented with a life where distraction of any kind except the Koran is looked down upon, Then they will look in the Koran for something to do. It seems that far too many have grabbed on to the fact that "Allah" wants them to annihilate the Jews and the Infidels. This is what is happening worldwide... Today not back in the days when we were all ignorant and barbaric. Why have many countries moved forward and become accepting of all kinds of people and religions except the Middle east?

Why are Muslims moving to western countries to live with the people that their god tells them to kill? I will tell you why. Because even though they teach hatred against us while claiming benefits in England (No I am not suggesting that they are all unemployed) BUT Many in the UK who preach in Mosques and schools against the west are claiming every penny that they can. They are now "Among us" What better way to get rid of those you hate than to infiltrate and destroy from within.

Personally, I think that religion will destroy this world and no one will be aware of anything because when you die... There is nothing. No awareness, not reunions, no virgins, Just plain nothing, Do you remember anything from before you were born? No one does, because you did not exist before you were conceived. That is exactly what happens when you die... NOTHING, you will no longer exist. When a brain is damaged, Living beings lose function. Cannot see and or hear etc. Consciousness is damaged, Now. Everyone knows that as fact so... What makes anyone think that when you completely destroy the brain by killing the person or dying yourself that the brain will function normally? That you will have consciousness, awareness? ....It just goes back to the same lack of state that was before your birth. You cease to exist!

I feel so sorry for those who spend their whole lives living for a god of some sort. Depriving themselves of simple pleasures. Justifying murdering innocent people in the name of religion. It is nothing but madness! Please do not bother writing back unless you are able to adress my points. If you just pick out some minor point and run with that *(As you have been doing) I will not bother responding.

BTW... How is it OK for Muslims to preach hatred against the west but, It is not OK for the west to laugh at what Muslims believe in? Talk about Hypocrisy and double standards!

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Don't "Have a feeling" about what I think. I say what I think!

Are you trying to equate child labor laws in China with outright rape and murder? Are you saying that we should just sit back and watch what is going on in Syria even when people are screaming for our help? Are you saying that Islamic extremists have not and are not killing all over this planet?....

They have been doing this for many many years. Your factual information is non existent. The laws in the west concerning free speech do NOT include the right to incite hatred! In fact people are jailed for inciting hatred. Sadly, for some reason Muslims seem to be getting away with that very thing. another example of western countries being too stupid or scared to do the right thing and treat Muslims EXACTLY the same as all of their other citizens,

You know.... I just cannot believe that you said that Islamic extremists stay and fight in their own countries and the west doesn't????? You must live in a vacuum or in denial.

I see that you do not try and justify any of the statements I made about Islamic laws, about their barbaric treatment of human beings etc. So You cannot argue about known facts that are cruel and unjust everyone can see, You cannot argue that Muslims are taught from a young age how westerners and Jews are nasty and dirty need to die. So you just ignore that and try to compare murder of innocent people to child labor laws. You just conveniently ignore the fact that Islamists have murdered and bombed in Australia, Paris, Spain, England, France, The USA, Bali, and many many more countries that have NOT bombed anyone nor drawn pictures of Mohamed, nor made videos. and before you latch on to the pictures and videos as an example of "Hate speech" like some other Muslims have said. Caricature and satire are NOT hate. Ridiculing someone or some thing is NOT hate.

Somewhere along to way Muslims have created countries where music, dancing, singing, just plain basic fun, Has been made illegal. If a human being is presented with a life where distraction of any kind except the Koran is looked down upon, Then they will look in the Koran for something to do. It seems that far too many have grabbed on to the fact that "Allah" wants them to annihilate the Jews and the Infidels. This is what is happening worldwide... Today not back in the days when we were all ignorant and barbaric. Why have many countries moved forward and become accepting of all kinds of people and religions except the Middle east?

Why are Muslims moving to western countries to live with the people that their god tells them to kill? I will tell you why. Because even though they teach hatred against us while claiming benefits in England (No I am not suggesting that they are all unemployed) BUT Many in the UK who preach in Mosques and schools against the west are claiming every penny that they can. They are now "Among us" What better way to get rid of those you hate than to infiltrate and destroy from within.

Personally, I think that religion will destroy this world and no one will be aware of anything because when you die... There is nothing. No awareness, not reunions, no virgins, Just plain nothing, Do you remember anything from before you were born? No one does, because you did not exist before you were conceived. That is exactly what happens when you die... NOTHING, you will no longer exist. When a brain is damaged, Living beings lose function. Cannot see and or hear etc. Consciousness is damaged, Now. Everyone knows that as fact so... What makes anyone think that when you completely destroy the brain by killing the person or dying yourself that the brain will function normally? That you will have consciousness, awareness? ....It just goes back to the same lack of state that was before your birth. You cease to exist!

I feel so sorry for those who spend their whole lives living for a god of some sort. Depriving themselves of simple pleasures. Justifying murdering innocent people in the name of religion. It is nothing but madness! Please do not bother writing back unless you are able to adress my points. If you just pick out some minor point and run with that *(As you have been doing) I will not bother responding.

BTW... How is it OK for Muslims to preach hatred against the west but, It is not OK for the west to laugh at what Muslims believe in? Talk about Hypocrisy and double standards!

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Guest: Sober (1010 days ago)
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Oh, man!

First of all, thank you for being patient and writing all your thoughts down for me!

Second, the mere fact of us disagreeing should tell you that people everywhere are different, their take on things could be completely opposite and, say, muslim values could very well be misunderstood in the west and vice versa. Or I see some of the points you’ve made as major while you see them as minor.

Third: Yes, I am trying to equate child labor in China (which resulted directly from globalization, when for profit-driven western company it is much cheaper to outsource to China) with rape and murder. Both cases have to do with sovereignty. In the former, corruption in China allows for child labour, which is beneficial for a westerner, who, as a result, has a brand new Iphone, nice cheap jeans and a pair of cool sneakers. So, child labour benefits everyone (except for the poor child). In the latter, local governments basically said “screw you” to civilized western advisors, who asked Syria, Libya, Iraq, Ukraine, Georgia, Czechoslovakia and many other nations to let “foreign investors in”. This is when the war starts. Look at pictures from those countries before “liberation”. No killings, no mass murder, no bloodshed. The countries were profitable, people were fed, crime rates were low (its all on Wikipedia, btw). The only problem with those countries was that they were not in the western camp. Well, too bad for them…And look at all of those countries now: please, please give me at least one example of a country (colony), which came better off after being liberated and civilized. So, when western troops go in, they destroy things and lives. And so you have Paris events as a result.

Forth: yes, I am saying, that as an American, or German, or French, or Turkish, or Russian, or an Aussie you should sit back, relax and mind their own business when people in Syria are killed, because of sovereignty. National sovereignty is much more important than your peace of mind. You will not be blamed by anyone for not going there and preventing killings (if they, in fact, took place). So, yes, sit back and be concerned about you domestic problems.

Fifth: about free speech and hatred. You wrote so many letters here basically arguing that Muslims and Islamic extremists are one and the same, that they are bad, that they infiltrated your society and must be called to order by international community. What is it, but hatred? People who live in glass houses shouldn’t throw stones, you know…

Sixth: Finally, here is a point I kinda agree with you on – immigration. The migration policies in western countries suck. After they let so many foreigners in the reverse discrimination unavoidable. The result is anger within the society. But who’s gonna work at McD’s? who’s gonna do the laundry, cater etc? So, I guess the two major reasons for sucky migration policy are laziness and profitmaking.

Seventh: Vacuum or denial – As I wrote before, the number of people killed in liberation campaigns largely exceeds the number of people, who died in terror attacks, which happened on western soil. In part its due to good protection, but largely – due to preventive strikes.

Eight: I, actually, have no idea about Islamic laws. I know a lot about double standards though. You can picture and ridicule the Christ, but it does not mean you can do the same with any other holy person. You say “not hate”. May be. Or may be not. Let people be, do not touch them and do not try to make profit off making fun of them. Drawing a line between hate and satire is impossible, so those journalists should have tried doing it in the first place. So the lion cub argument stands…

Nine: Before liberation campaigns started my parents (both white atheists) travelled to the Middle East. They have not been eaten alive, they actually enjoyed their stay there very much.

Ten: Agree on nothingness and religion in general.

Eleven: How do you know Muslims preach hatred against the west? Is there a specific provision in the Koran or fatwah?

As Paris events show, it is not ok to laugh at Muslim beliefs. As Syrian or Libyan events show, it is not ok to preach hatred against the west. Interestingly, in these two situations the cartoon was published for the newspaper to make profit, while Libya was attacked to control vast fresh water reserves (i.e. make profit) and Syria was attacked to control oil reserves (i.e. make profit). You see, in both cases religion is only an excuse.

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Oh, man!

First of all, thank you for being patient and writing all your thoughts down for me!

Second, the mere fact of us disagreeing should tell you that people everywhere are different, their take on things could be completely opposite and, say, muslim values could very well be misunderstood in the west and vice versa. Or I see some of the points you’ve made as major while you see them as minor.

Third: Yes, I am trying to equate child labor in China (which resulted directly from globalization, when for profit-driven western company it is much cheaper to outsource to China) with rape and murder. Both cases have to do with sovereignty. In the former, corruption in China allows for child labour, which is beneficial for a westerner, who, as a result, has a brand new Iphone, nice cheap jeans and a pair of cool sneakers. So, child labour benefits everyone (except for the poor child). In the latter, local governments basically said “screw you” to civilized western advisors, who asked Syria, Libya, Iraq, Ukraine, Georgia, Czechoslovakia and many other nations to let “foreign investors in”. This is when the war starts. Look at pictures from those countries before “liberation”. No killings, no mass murder, no bloodshed. The countries were profitable, people were fed, crime rates were low (its all on Wikipedia, btw). The only problem with those countries was that they were not in the western camp. Well, too bad for them…And look at all of those countries now: please, please give me at least one example of a country (colony), which came better off after being liberated and civilized. So, when western troops go in, they destroy things and lives. And so you have Paris events as a result.

Forth: yes, I am saying, that as an American, or German, or French, or Turkish, or Russian, or an Aussie you should sit back, relax and mind their own business when people in Syria are killed, because of sovereignty. National sovereignty is much more important than your peace of mind. You will not be blamed by anyone for not going there and preventing killings (if they, in fact, took place). So, yes, sit back and be concerned about you domestic problems.

Fifth: about free speech and hatred. You wrote so many letters here basically arguing that Muslims and Islamic extremists are one and the same, that they are bad, that they infiltrated your society and must be called to order by international community. What is it, but hatred? People who live in glass houses shouldn’t throw stones, you know…

Sixth: Finally, here is a point I kinda agree with you on – immigration. The migration policies in western countries suck. After they let so many foreigners in the reverse discrimination unavoidable. The result is anger within the society. But who’s gonna work at McD’s? who’s gonna do the laundry, cater etc? So, I guess the two major reasons for sucky migration policy are laziness and profitmaking.

Seventh: Vacuum or denial – As I wrote before, the number of people killed in liberation campaigns largely exceeds the number of people, who died in terror attacks, which happened on western soil. In part its due to good protection, but largely – due to preventive strikes.

Eight: I, actually, have no idea about Islamic laws. I know a lot about double standards though. You can picture and ridicule the Christ, but it does not mean you can do the same with any other holy person. You say “not hate”. May be. Or may be not. Let people be, do not touch them and do not try to make profit off making fun of them. Drawing a line between hate and satire is impossible, so those journalists should have tried doing it in the first place. So the lion cub argument stands…

Nine: Before liberation campaigns started my parents (both white atheists) travelled to the Middle East. They have not been eaten alive, they actually enjoyed their stay there very much.

Ten: Agree on nothingness and religion in general.

Eleven: How do you know Muslims preach hatred against the west? Is there a specific provision in the Koran or fatwah?

As Paris events show, it is not ok to laugh at Muslim beliefs. As Syrian or Libyan events show, it is not ok to preach hatred against the west. Interestingly, in these two situations the cartoon was published for the newspaper to make profit, while Libya was attacked to control vast fresh water reserves (i.e. make profit) and Syria was attacked to control oil reserves (i.e. make profit). You see, in both cases religion is only an excuse.

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we don't care about a violent, barbaric, ni**er cu*t's opinion so you can just go fu*k yourself.

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