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Joe Rogan - Society Trap

Joe Rogan - Society Trap

(6:03) Especially thought-provoking clip from the Joe Rogan Experience podcast #389 with comedian Brian Redban. JoeRogan.net

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LogicIsPower LogicIsPower (1008 days ago)
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No one likes to be told "You're doing it wrong" especially if its life that is being discussed. :)

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No one likes to be told "You're doing it wrong" especially if its life that is being discussed. :)

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Guest: Croixs (1014 days ago)

I have always enjoyed Joe's thoughts and he makes alot of valid points. On the flip side he makes remarks about being a limo driver or a construction worker as a shitty job. Some folks enjoy doing what they are doing. Being part of something that makes society move along. Simply put ya put in the hours and you get paid. With that money you buy and do the things you'd like to do at some level. Obviously that doesnt mean hopping in your lear jet and heading off on vacation whenever it tickles your fancy. His analogy of trading fish for coconuts is not valid as surely enough someone will have bigger better goods to trade and supply and demand will take over and those with the most will be dealing with others in the same situation. Thats pretty much how currency came about. His ideas here are fantasy and it is a dog eat dog world and those who are smart, clever, strong, driven etc...wil be the elite in a society. Unless your a trust fund baby who has it handed to you, hard work and drive are what makes you who you become. Basic shit.

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I have always enjoyed Joe's thoughts and he makes alot of valid points. On the flip side he makes remarks about being a limo driver or a construction worker as a shitty job. Some folks enjoy doing what they are doing. Being part of something that makes society move along. Simply put ya put in the hours and you get paid. With that money you buy and do the things you'd like to do at some level. Obviously that doesnt mean hopping in your lear jet and heading off on vacation whenever it tickles your fancy. His analogy of trading fish for coconuts is not valid as surely enough someone will have bigger better goods to trade and supply and demand will take over and those with the most will be dealing with others in the same situation. Thats pretty much how currency came about. His ideas here are fantasy and it is a dog eat dog world and those who are smart, clever, strong, driven etc...wil be the elite in a society. Unless your a trust fund baby who has it handed to you, hard work and drive are what makes you who you become. Basic shit.

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Guest: one more time (1013 days ago)

Well it's thought provoking but only to the extent that I think Joe Rogan needs to do some more research before sounding off. His criticisms are juvenile. He seems to want to go back to some golden age when we lived by barter. At the same time he seems to object to private property. So let me put the opposing point of view. No-one is forcing people into excessive consumption. Capitalism - or rather, a free market with liberal democractic government - has been reponsible for lifting us all out of the depths of misery that we used to enjoy, and given much of the world a quality of life the like of which has never been seen or even imagined before. At the same time, I do not advocate unbridled capitalism. But it is up to governments to establish the rules and to enforce them, and to decide which markets are best served by private enterpise, and which by state enterprise. Then stand back and let the benefits pour out.

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Well it's thought provoking but only to the extent that I think Joe Rogan needs to do some more research before sounding off. His criticisms are juvenile. He seems to want to go back to some golden age when we lived by barter. At the same time he seems to object to private property. So let me put the opposing point of view. No-one is forcing people into excessive consumption. Capitalism - or rather, a free market with liberal democractic government - has been reponsible for lifting us all out of the depths of misery that we used to enjoy, and given much of the world a quality of life the like of which has never been seen or even imagined before. At the same time, I do not advocate unbridled capitalism. But it is up to governments to establish the rules and to enforce them, and to decide which markets are best served by private enterpise, and which by state enterprise. Then stand back and let the benefits pour out.

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Guest: (1013 days ago)

I think he makes some great arguments here. I can imagine it's really difficult for many people to properly realise his ideas in their minds because of how they are conditioned to only think squarely inside the realms of capitalism.

Capitalism is very religious in that sense, blind sheep knowing no better, not able to see how their lives could be different. Always running back to erroneous rhetoric to try and prove their points when it's clear to all that can see the bigger picture that it's an outdated model that isn't working for society as a whole but for the bullies of the world.

Like religion again, people will continue to 'follow' capitalism due to fear, lack of intelligence/knowledge/wi sdom, punishment, weakness, insecurity also not to disrupt the norm and simply because it's very hard to do it. The rich have laws, law makers, private and public armies, merceneries and murders, politicians, state officials, propoganda machines (MASS MEDIA), governmental organisations who spy on the world, all on their payroll.

They victimise, harass, smear, detain, punish, kill, enslave, incarcerate anyone or anything that stands in their way, distracting the world with warfare and economic booms and busts.

The gambling rollacoaster that we allow to dictate our lives must end.

#Slavetodebtandfear

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I think he makes some great arguments here. I can imagine it's really difficult for many people to properly realise his ideas in their minds because of how they are conditioned to only think squarely inside the realms of capitalism.

Capitalism is very religious in that sense, blind sheep knowing no better, not able to see how their lives could be different. Always running back to erroneous rhetoric to try and prove their points when it's clear to all that can see the bigger picture that it's an outdated model that isn't working for society as a whole but for the bullies of the world.

Like religion again, people will continue to 'follow' capitalism due to fear, lack of intelligence/knowledge/wi sdom, punishment, weakness, insecurity also not to disrupt the norm and simply because it's very hard to do it. The rich have laws, law makers, private and public armies, merceneries and murders, politicians, state officials, propoganda machines (MASS MEDIA), governmental organisations who spy on the world, all on their payroll.

They victimise, harass, smear, detain, punish, kill, enslave, incarcerate anyone or anything that stands in their way, distracting the world with warfare and economic booms and busts.

The gambling rollacoaster that we allow to dictate our lives must end.

#Slavetodebtandfear

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