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The goal of the EU is to form a region of freedom, security and justice ...

The goal of the EU is to form a region of freedom, security and justice. Freedom in this connection cannot be just the freedom of the strong, but it must be combined with fraternity and equality. Tarja Halonen, 11th President of Finland (from 2000 - 2012). More homepage quotes

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Guest: YouAskedForIt (658 days ago)

Not quite the reality though is it?

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Not quite the reality though is it?

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WalterEgo WalterEgo (656 days ago)

A goal wouldn't be a goal if it was already reality.

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A goal wouldn't be a goal if it was already reality.

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Guest: YouAsked ForIt (656 days ago)

Yeah, psychobabble, that helps.

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Yeah, psychobabble, that helps.

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WalterEgo WalterEgo (655 days ago)

A goal is something you aim for. Do you think "a region of freedom, security and justice" is an unworthy goal?

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A goal is something you aim for. Do you think "a region of freedom, security and justice" is an unworthy goal?

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Guest: YouAsked ForIt (655 days ago)

A region will never have the security aspect sorted as by definition there will be other regions outside your borders and almost certainly you will have differences between you. That's history. What's happening on the world stage today is the biggest game of RISK. It's my belief that the EU power block is actually a serious threat to world peace. The phrase 'balance of power' might be worth thinking about.

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A region will never have the security aspect sorted as by definition there will be other regions outside your borders and almost certainly you will have differences between you. That's history. What's happening on the world stage today is the biggest game of RISK. It's my belief that the EU power block is actually a serious threat to world peace. The phrase 'balance of power' might be worth thinking about.

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WalterEgo WalterEgo (654 days ago)

Why do you think the EU is a serious threat to world peace? It's the first time I've heard that idea.

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Why do you think the EU is a serious threat to world peace? It's the first time I've heard that idea.

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Guest: YouAsked ForIt (651 days ago)

When the Warsw Pact broke up the EU chose to enrol the bit players in an attempt to isolate and weaken Russia in order to neutralise any potential future threat from Moscow. We should have taken the chance to build a new relationship with a key player. We chose instead to try and surround them. We in the EU must accept our responsibilty for the mess we continue to create by voting for the idiots who perpetuate the mess.

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When the Warsw Pact broke up the EU chose to enrol the bit players in an attempt to isolate and weaken Russia in order to neutralise any potential future threat from Moscow. We should have taken the chance to build a new relationship with a key player. We chose instead to try and surround them. We in the EU must accept our responsibilty for the mess we continue to create by voting for the idiots who perpetuate the mess.

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WalterEgo WalterEgo (650 days ago)

The EU doesn't "choose" to enrol countries, rather countries choose to join the EU and are accepted if they meet certain criteria. Turkey applied to join in 1987 and has still not been accepted.

If Russia applied to join the EU, and was accepted - IMO that would be a great move towards a more peaceful world.

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The EU doesn't "choose" to enrol countries, rather countries choose to join the EU and are accepted if they meet certain criteria. Turkey applied to join in 1987 and has still not been accepted.

If Russia applied to join the EU, and was accepted - IMO that would be a great move towards a more peaceful world.

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Guest: YouAsked ForIt (650 days ago)
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Let's not argue about the wording it sounds just like the politicians who **** everything up when they can't see an open goal right in front of them. Defeat snatched from the jaws of victory. What you get when you have 28 chiefs....the EU isn't strong. It's weak and indecisive but our political masters like to portray otherwise.and therein lies the danger. Old Vlad can see right through them.

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Let's not argue about the wording it sounds just like the politicians who **** everything up when they can't see an open goal right in front of them. Defeat snatched from the jaws of victory. What you get when you have 28 chiefs....the EU isn't strong. It's weak and indecisive but our political masters like to portray otherwise.and therein lies the danger. Old Vlad can see right through them.

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WalterEgo WalterEgo (655 days ago)

Re-reading her quote, I think I was guilty of some sloppy reading.

My interpretation is that she is criticising the "freedom" part of "freedom, security and justice" - she's not saying that freedom shouldn't be an EU goal, but that freedom is not just for the strong, ie. the rich and powerful.

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Re-reading her quote, I think I was guilty of some sloppy reading.

My interpretation is that she is criticising the "freedom" part of "freedom, security and justice" - she's not saying that freedom shouldn't be an EU goal, but that freedom is not just for the strong, ie. the rich and powerful.

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Guest: Guest1 (656 days ago)

Wow! So many people voting this down but not a single comment about why they disagree with YouAskedForIt

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Wow! So many people voting this down but not a single comment about why they disagree with YouAskedForIt

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TheBob TheBob (655 days ago)

Spooky - so many people voting this comment down as well. It's almost as if there's a pattern.

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Spooky - so many people voting this comment down as well. It's almost as if there's a pattern.

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Guest: (655 days ago)

Yeah, probably intimadated by your intellectual observation and village people dungareeeeee

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Yeah, probably intimadated by your intellectual observation and village people dungareeeeee

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TheBob TheBob (655 days ago)

Before you get arsey about intellectual observations, you might want to check your spelling. YYYYY M C A!

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Before you get arsey about intellectual observations, you might want to check your spelling. YYYYY M C A!

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Guest: (655 days ago)

Can you fix it?

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Can you fix it?

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Guest: (655 days ago)

What? His dungarees or personality?

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What? His dungarees or personality?

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Guest: Guest2 (655 days ago)

Prob just the dungarees, can't fix a TOOL !!!!!

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Prob just the dungarees, can't fix a TOOL !!!!!

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Guest: YYYY MCA (655 days ago)

Well The Bob, If you're drilling deep,always carry a plug !

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Well The Bob, If you're drilling deep,always carry a plug !

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