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Arina Averina rhythmic gymnastics ball routine

Arina Averina rhythmic gymnastics ball routine

(1:52) Amazing routine by Russian gymnast Arina Averina in 2011 when she was 12 years old.

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Guest: (551 days ago)

A skinny, perfectly trained child in tights and with make-up. Who does not find this horrific?

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A skinny, perfectly trained child in tights and with make-up. Who does not find this horrific?

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Guest: Hitchiker (551 days ago)

She would make a fine wife for mohammed.

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She would make a fine wife for mohammed.

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or pretty much anyone living before 1000 yrs ago including all your ancestors.

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or pretty much anyone living before 1000 yrs ago including all your ancestors.

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Guest: Hitchiker (551 days ago)

Not my ancestors, maybe yours.

I was referring to today, Mohammad Ozam the guy who runs the variety store down the street. He's a radical muslim who has 6 wifes, all about 12 years old.

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Not my ancestors, maybe yours.

I was referring to today, Mohammad Ozam the guy who runs the variety store down the street. He's a radical muslim who has 6 wifes, all about 12 years old.

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oh ok fair enough. i thought maybe you were desended from dirty celts and of course they were the worst. not only did they marry children and have many wives, abduction and rape were a legal basis for marriage. filthy celtic mud people. i guess you have muslim ancestry then where that kind of evil is forbidden..

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oh ok fair enough. i thought maybe you were desended from dirty celts and of course they were the worst. not only did they marry children and have many wives, abduction and rape were a legal basis for marriage. filthy celtic mud people. i guess you have muslim ancestry then where that kind of evil is forbidden..

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Guest: Hitchhiker (551 days ago)

Could have been celts, saxons,vikings or whatever. They all raped, married children and abducted wives a long time ago. They don't do that anymore because its 2016 and people today don't do that shit but wait in muslim countries they still do.

Your telling me that islam does not promote multiple wives, or the marrying of children as young as nine? Mohammad married a 9 year old girl and had multiple wives. In some musilim countrys they have slavery still, and they sell their children into marriage.

Original name by the way good thinking.

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Could have been celts, saxons,vikings or whatever. They all raped, married children and abducted wives a long time ago. They don't do that anymore because its 2016 and people today don't do that shit but wait in muslim countries they still do.

Your telling me that islam does not promote multiple wives, or the marrying of children as young as nine? Mohammad married a 9 year old girl and had multiple wives. In some musilim countrys they have slavery still, and they sell their children into marriage.

Original name by the way good thinking.

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no i am saying multiple wives etc was common all over the world but its just the celts that had abduction and rape as a LEGAL way of getting married. disgusting mud people. no muslims have ever had that becuse its forbidden. plus lots of christian african countries still have multiple wives thing thats no shocker even mormons have done it. as for slavery it happens all over in lots of countries including christians countries like brazil. you need to read the news.

mohammed married someone that age? whats your source? are you getting confused between hadith and quran again? and anyway i thought you said the quran isnt true? lol confused much?

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no i am saying multiple wives etc was common all over the world but its just the celts that had abduction and rape as a LEGAL way of getting married. disgusting mud people. no muslims have ever had that becuse its forbidden. plus lots of christian african countries still have multiple wives thing thats no shocker even mormons have done it. as for slavery it happens all over in lots of countries including christians countries like brazil. you need to read the news.

mohammed married someone that age? whats your source? are you getting confused between hadith and quran again? and anyway i thought you said the quran isnt true? lol confused much?

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Guest: Hitchiker (550 days ago)

No there are still people out there that include abduction and rape a way of getting married.kony. How do you explain what Isis is doing right now ? Abducting, raping and selling wives. Same thing mohammed did.

Nope, Koran is a lie like all religions.

You need to read more about Islamic history and how it conquered the middle east, through rape, murder and theft.

Your too ingnorant to argue with, sad really.

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No there are still people out there that include abduction and rape a way of getting married.kony. How do you explain what Isis is doing right now ? Abducting, raping and selling wives. Same thing mohammed did.

Nope, Koran is a lie like all religions.

You need to read more about Islamic history and how it conquered the middle east, through rape, murder and theft.

Your too ingnorant to argue with, sad really.

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kony? um you know he thinks he is a christian right? stupid. yeh to ignorant like you said. lol i guess the only chance u get of having a wife is abudcting and rape like the LAW of your ancestors. no islamic law has ever allowed that.

you never answered. how do you know that mohammed abducted raped and sold wives? is it koran or hadith? do you believe them? or is it anothe historical document?

i know about islamic culture and what it has given the world like the golden age. spend 10 mins and educate yourself. what about the celts? when was there golden age? they gave nothing apart from backward atitudes in there backward desendents like you. ignorance is genetic. thats why u cant see the difference between isis and islam.

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kony? um you know he thinks he is a christian right? stupid. yeh to ignorant like you said. lol i guess the only chance u get of having a wife is abudcting and rape like the LAW of your ancestors. no islamic law has ever allowed that.

you never answered. how do you know that mohammed abducted raped and sold wives? is it koran or hadith? do you believe them? or is it anothe historical document?

i know about islamic culture and what it has given the world like the golden age. spend 10 mins and educate yourself. what about the celts? when was there golden age? they gave nothing apart from backward atitudes in there backward desendents like you. ignorance is genetic. thats why u cant see the difference between isis and islam.

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Guest: Hitchiker (550 days ago)

Yet again you prove how ignorant you are.

Go read a book and get back to me.

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Yet again you prove how ignorant you are.

Go read a book and get back to me.

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haha yeh as i thought you cant reply on a single point nice one. shows that stupid people have stupid opinions. you just dont know any better.

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haha yeh as i thought you cant reply on a single point nice one. shows that stupid people have stupid opinions. you just dont know any better.

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Casey Casey (551 days ago)

Obviously everyone watching and cheering her for an incredible performance.

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Obviously everyone watching and cheering her for an incredible performance.

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Seriously: You don't find this somewhat disturbing? Can this level be achieved by any way other than robbing a girl of her childhood and probably her health as well? This is child abuse. For an incredible perfomance.

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Seriously: You don't find this somewhat disturbing? Can this level be achieved by any way other than robbing a girl of her childhood and probably her health as well? This is child abuse. For an incredible perfomance.

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Casey Casey (551 days ago)

We have no idea of this girls situation past, present or future. You can speculate all you want as how she may have lost her childhood or been forced to train for hours on end but we can also surmise she is a natural and truly enjoys what she does and is following and living a dream, setting herself up to be a world champion where wealth and fame could follow. We have no basis to cry "child abuse" or how "horrific" without first knowing the facts. Personally I enjoyed and marvelled at the performance and wish her the best.

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We have no idea of this girls situation past, present or future. You can speculate all you want as how she may have lost her childhood or been forced to train for hours on end but we can also surmise she is a natural and truly enjoys what she does and is following and living a dream, setting herself up to be a world champion where wealth and fame could follow. We have no basis to cry "child abuse" or how "horrific" without first knowing the facts. Personally I enjoyed and marvelled at the performance and wish her the best.

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That would be truely an extraordinary talent, focus, independent strategic thinking, work ethic and readiness to make sacrifices for a child between 4, when she started, and the 12-year old she is in the video. Chances are, though:

"Evidence suggests that athletes, in general, and gymnasts, in particular, are especially vulnerable to a variety of forms of exploitation or abuse that can range from extreme diets and weight control, to verbal and emotional abuse, overtraining, corporal punishment, over-use injuries and training and competing while in pain or injured (Johns & Johns, 2000; Waddington, 2000; Gervis & Dunn, 2004; David, 2005; Fasting & Brackenridge, 2009). According to this literature, intensive training, competitive pressures and abuses in gymnastics often result in quite serious physical and psychological problems. For instance, many athletes develop eating disorders (Papathomas & Lavallee, 2010). Others have very low self-esteem. Physical and/or psychological injuries may last through an athlete’s entire life. Further, many young athletes involved in this kind of intensive training feel they have lost their childhood, and that they have grown up too soon. Brackenridge and Kirby (1997, p. 411) argue that these athletes describe their existence ‘as a feeling of the rest of their lives being on hold’. Their lives revolve around school gymnasiums and sports arenas. They do not have time for outings, social life, parties, cinema, boy or girlfriends. That is, they do not have the time to do the things that are considered ‘normal’ for their non-sporting peers (David, 2005). This sense of ‘lost childhood’ is, according to David (2005, p. 60), ‘a powerful indicator of sport-related abusive trends’."

Pineiro et al., Sport, Education and Society 2012, 1-16. DOI:13573322.2012.679730

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That would be truely an extraordinary talent, focus, independent strategic thinking, work ethic and readiness to make sacrifices for a child between 4, when she started, and the 12-year old she is in the video. Chances are, though:

"Evidence suggests that athletes, in general, and gymnasts, in particular, are especially vulnerable to a variety of forms of exploitation or abuse that can range from extreme diets and weight control, to verbal and emotional abuse, overtraining, corporal punishment, over-use injuries and training and competing while in pain or injured (Johns & Johns, 2000; Waddington, 2000; Gervis & Dunn, 2004; David, 2005; Fasting & Brackenridge, 2009). According to this literature, intensive training, competitive pressures and abuses in gymnastics often result in quite serious physical and psychological problems. For instance, many athletes develop eating disorders (Papathomas & Lavallee, 2010). Others have very low self-esteem. Physical and/or psychological injuries may last through an athlete’s entire life. Further, many young athletes involved in this kind of intensive training feel they have lost their childhood, and that they have grown up too soon. Brackenridge and Kirby (1997, p. 411) argue that these athletes describe their existence ‘as a feeling of the rest of their lives being on hold’. Their lives revolve around school gymnasiums and sports arenas. They do not have time for outings, social life, parties, cinema, boy or girlfriends. That is, they do not have the time to do the things that are considered ‘normal’ for their non-sporting peers (David, 2005). This sense of ‘lost childhood’ is, according to David (2005, p. 60), ‘a powerful indicator of sport-related abusive trends’."

Pineiro et al., Sport, Education and Society 2012, 1-16. DOI:13573322.2012.679730

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Casey Casey (551 days ago)

There is no doubt abuse happens, my point is how do we know it happened to this particular girl and you just can't assume it happens in every case....

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There is no doubt abuse happens, my point is how do we know it happened to this particular girl and you just can't assume it happens in every case....

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I only say this much: Chances are very high. And even if in this case, we would be talking about a super-focused and highly disciplined adult in the body of a 12-year-old: In a system that brings with it a significant chance for abuse and physical and psychological harm of children, I would still have problems cheering that particular extraordinary child.

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I only say this much: Chances are very high. And even if in this case, we would be talking about a super-focused and highly disciplined adult in the body of a 12-year-old: In a system that brings with it a significant chance for abuse and physical and psychological harm of children, I would still have problems cheering that particular extraordinary child.

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WalterEgo WalterEgo (551 days ago)

When do you think is the right age to start intensely training someone who shows exceptional ability?

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When do you think is the right age to start intensely training someone who shows exceptional ability?

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These girls (and boys) train 30 to 40 hours per week net. That is the equivalent to a full time job. They have to go to school as well.

The training is extremely hard on the body. Unlike other athlete, gymnasts typically start intensive training well before puberty, and it continues through puberty. Because the female gymnasts have such small amounts of fat in their body, and they cannot build up sufficient ammounts of fat, puberty starts later, growth is delayed, and the effects are smaller. The high impacts the bones' growth plate endure on a regular basis have an additional negative on growth.

Around 16 would be okay. Of course, the girls would be different then, their bodies and mind not as mouldable and they would probably not be able to fly to high and far.

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These girls (and boys) train 30 to 40 hours per week net. That is the equivalent to a full time job. They have to go to school as well.

The training is extremely hard on the body. Unlike other athlete, gymnasts typically start intensive training well before puberty, and it continues through puberty. Because the female gymnasts have such small amounts of fat in their body, and they cannot build up sufficient ammounts of fat, puberty starts later, growth is delayed, and the effects are smaller. The high impacts the bones' growth plate endure on a regular basis have an additional negative on growth.

Around 16 would be okay. Of course, the girls would be different then, their bodies and mind not as mouldable and they would probably not be able to fly to high and far.

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Guest: Mohammed Ozam (550 days ago)

I'd give her one

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I'd give her one

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editor please report this comment and the origin ip at ceop. its free and quick to do. maybe its a joke but you cant make that kind of joke in real life without being reported. dont just cover it up or delete it, report it.

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editor please report this comment and the origin ip at ceop. its free and quick to do. maybe its a joke but you cant make that kind of joke in real life without being reported. dont just cover it up or delete it, report it.

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Guest: Hitchiker (550 days ago)

Get over yourself.

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Get over yourself.

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