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Kids explain why women are paid less than men

(4:12) Jimmy Kimmel takes to the streets to find out what kids think of equal pay between genders.

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Casey Casey (531 days ago)

I believe this was an issue 20 or so years ago but not now.

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I believe this was an issue 20 or so years ago but not now.

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Guest: (531 days ago)

It is still an issue.

Women, on average, earn less than men in virtually every single occupation for which there is sufficient earnings data for both men and women to calculate an earnings ratio. In 2015, female full-time workers made only 79 cents for every dollar earned by men, a gender wage gap of 21 percent.

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It is still an issue.

Women, on average, earn less than men in virtually every single occupation for which there is sufficient earnings data for both men and women to calculate an earnings ratio. In 2015, female full-time workers made only 79 cents for every dollar earned by men, a gender wage gap of 21 percent.

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Casey Casey (530 days ago)

I find this hard to believe for two very simple reasons. Firstly in most first world countries, and I would assume America, it is against the law to discrinate against gender and secondly, if you could hire some one to do the same job for a 21% discount then the workplace would be full of women.

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I find this hard to believe for two very simple reasons. Firstly in most first world countries, and I would assume America, it is against the law to discrinate against gender and secondly, if you could hire some one to do the same job for a 21% discount then the workplace would be full of women.

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Guest: (530 days ago)

What you find hard to believe and what reality is are two different things. This is basic math using real numbers. Try using google to see what results you get and you will see that it is still an issue.

The interesting part is about why this happens. Companies need employees and post positions needing to be filled. Both women and men apply for the job. The man may already have a job and you might have to offer an incentive for him to change jobs and work for you. The woman may currently be a house wife and doesn't ask for any incentive because she is happy just having the job. Additionally, when a company gives a job offer with a proposed salary, the woman would be more likely to accept the first offer without making counter offers probably because they don't want to appear too aggressive. There are many other possible reasons and they are not all documented clearly but it is a fact that men get paid more than women for the same job in nearly every sector. You finding it hard to believe does not make it any less true.

Regarding the workplace being full of women, my company has 52% women employees. Not because they get paid less but becasue more of them applied for and received that job. It seems there is a higher percentage, about 75% women, at the lower level positions and the higher level positions are mostly men.

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What you find hard to believe and what reality is are two different things. This is basic math using real numbers. Try using google to see what results you get and you will see that it is still an issue.

The interesting part is about why this happens. Companies need employees and post positions needing to be filled. Both women and men apply for the job. The man may already have a job and you might have to offer an incentive for him to change jobs and work for you. The woman may currently be a house wife and doesn't ask for any incentive because she is happy just having the job. Additionally, when a company gives a job offer with a proposed salary, the woman would be more likely to accept the first offer without making counter offers probably because they don't want to appear too aggressive. There are many other possible reasons and they are not all documented clearly but it is a fact that men get paid more than women for the same job in nearly every sector. You finding it hard to believe does not make it any less true.

Regarding the workplace being full of women, my company has 52% women employees. Not because they get paid less but becasue more of them applied for and received that job. It seems there is a higher percentage, about 75% women, at the lower level positions and the higher level positions are mostly men.

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Casey Casey (530 days ago)

Well I did as you suggested, I googled it and found that indeed what I thought was correct, there is no real wage discrimination. There used to be but not now. LINK

there are lots of other articles basically saying the same thing, even from feminists! It's a political issue, it scores points with women and particularly liberals. There is a difference in what women are being paid in general but there are reasons for it.

so I would suggest what you find hard to believe is, in fact, reality.

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Well I did as you suggested, I googled it and found that indeed what I thought was correct, there is no real wage discrimination. There used to be but not now. LINK

there are lots of other articles basically saying the same thing, even from feminists! It's a political issue, it scores points with women and particularly liberals. There is a difference in what women are being paid in general but there are reasons for it.

so I would suggest what you find hard to believe is, in fact, reality.

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Guest: (530 days ago)

Oh sure, some random guy that had a podcast is what you use as proof so that is very convincing. Not!

Try some of these links:

LINK

LINK

LINK

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Oh sure, some random guy that had a podcast is what you use as proof so that is very convincing. Not!

Try some of these links:

LINK

LINK

LINK

LINK

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Casey Casey (530 days ago)

You obviously never looked at the link, it's not a random guy at all but a Harvard professor, a woman no less!, "Goldin has been working on gender economics for years, and has personally done some of the most influential research." LINK who has specialised and studied in depth the very question of wage inequality. Now go back and read that interview , otherwise no point in me looking at your links is there?

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You obviously never looked at the link, it's not a random guy at all but a Harvard professor, a woman no less!, "Goldin has been working on gender economics for years, and has personally done some of the most influential research." LINK who has specialised and studied in depth the very question of wage inequality. Now go back and read that interview , otherwise no point in me looking at your links is there?

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Casey Casey (530 days ago)

Okay, unlike you, I actually looked at your links. Hardly convincing! A women's institute! The bias is plain to see...and then just a vid. of Obama quoting the same, misleading, statistic et. Take a look at this YouTube vid. Which explains clearly and precisely why those stats are wrong and even why Obama is wrong. Backed by real statistics and non biased research. Since you don't seem to want to read too much the video will make it much easier to understand. LINK

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Okay, unlike you, I actually looked at your links. Hardly convincing! A women's institute! The bias is plain to see...and then just a vid. of Obama quoting the same, misleading, statistic et. Take a look at this YouTube vid. Which explains clearly and precisely why those stats are wrong and even why Obama is wrong. Backed by real statistics and non biased research. Since you don't seem to want to read too much the video will make it much easier to understand. LINK

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Guest: (529 days ago)

That video did not have any statistics listed anywhere. Just some woman rambling on saying the wage gap doesn't exist and the whitehouse left out many critical varibles in their analysis. She fell short of telling us what those variables were (if they really existed she would have provided those details). She did state how they came up with that by looking at 50 peer reviewed papers and combining all that research. Seems like a valid method to me.

You may have missed a couple of my links because I provided more than one from a woman's institute: CNN, Payscale, and the Whitehouse.

You are welcome to continue dreaming that everyone is paid equally if it makes you sleep better but I'll go with the research experts plus my own experience of being in an HR organization of an extremely large company.

During my own search, I discovered there are only 16 cities in the USA where women actually earn more than men. That is less than one per state. LINK

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That video did not have any statistics listed anywhere. Just some woman rambling on saying the wage gap doesn't exist and the whitehouse left out many critical varibles in their analysis. She fell short of telling us what those variables were (if they really existed she would have provided those details). She did state how they came up with that by looking at 50 peer reviewed papers and combining all that research. Seems like a valid method to me.

You may have missed a couple of my links because I provided more than one from a woman's institute: CNN, Payscale, and the Whitehouse.

You are welcome to continue dreaming that everyone is paid equally if it makes you sleep better but I'll go with the research experts plus my own experience of being in an HR organization of an extremely large company.

During my own search, I discovered there are only 16 cities in the USA where women actually earn more than men. That is less than one per state. LINK

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Casey Casey (529 days ago)

Like I said, go back and read what the women proffessor, who has written some of the most influential papers on this subject, said about it. It dovetails nicely to what the woman in the video says. Obama is NOT an expert, he's a politician. The statistics in your link are just that, statistics. If you don't understand why the numbers are that way you understand nothing. A quick example, there are many more women nurses than men, is that discriminatory? The numbers say yes but the underlying reason behind those numbers say no....now go read what a real expert has to say.

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Like I said, go back and read what the women proffessor, who has written some of the most influential papers on this subject, said about it. It dovetails nicely to what the woman in the video says. Obama is NOT an expert, he's a politician. The statistics in your link are just that, statistics. If you don't understand why the numbers are that way you understand nothing. A quick example, there are many more women nurses than men, is that discriminatory? The numbers say yes but the underlying reason behind those numbers say no....now go read what a real expert has to say.

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Casey Casey (529 days ago)

You're missing the whole point, generally women aren't paid equally to men and there is a reason for this. Not just in America but Great Britain, Australia etc. you can't just take an average of all jobs men and women do and the wages they get and come up with a number, it's far more complex than that. However, generally speaking, women prefer more time with family than overtime, their emphasis is on family rather than work, and that's a nothing to be ashamed or ridiculed for, it is what it is. Men are generally more aggressive in nature, especially when it comes to climbing the corporate ladder etc. plus you have time off for babies etc. there are many more areas in society where men are discriminated against much more than women. The wage discrimination is a myth, get used to it.

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You're missing the whole point, generally women aren't paid equally to men and there is a reason for this. Not just in America but Great Britain, Australia etc. you can't just take an average of all jobs men and women do and the wages they get and come up with a number, it's far more complex than that. However, generally speaking, women prefer more time with family than overtime, their emphasis is on family rather than work, and that's a nothing to be ashamed or ridiculed for, it is what it is. Men are generally more aggressive in nature, especially when it comes to climbing the corporate ladder etc. plus you have time off for babies etc. there are many more areas in society where men are discriminated against much more than women. The wage discrimination is a myth, get used to it.

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Guest: (528 days ago)

The stats state that men get paid more for the same work. All your other comments are invalidated by that one statement.

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The stats state that men get paid more for the same work. All your other comments are invalidated by that one statement.

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Guest: Ajspam (528 days ago)

The statistics are that men on average earn more than women. The statistics are that men work longer hours than women, that men work for more years with fewer career breaks and work part time less often. Men work more dangerous jobs (so almost all workplace deaths are male) and tend to work in jobs with less flexibility in hours. When all this is allowed for the supposed wage gap all but disappears. That this one statistic is the only gender and work related statistic that is ever quoted is very revealing. You could quote 95% of workplace deaths are male, men in part time jobs paid less than women, women under the age of 40 paid more than men on avergetting. All misleading and not actually indicative of discrimination but the only one quoted over and over again is the false claim that won are paid less than men for the same work.

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The statistics are that men on average earn more than women. The statistics are that men work longer hours than women, that men work for more years with fewer career breaks and work part time less often. Men work more dangerous jobs (so almost all workplace deaths are male) and tend to work in jobs with less flexibility in hours. When all this is allowed for the supposed wage gap all but disappears. That this one statistic is the only gender and work related statistic that is ever quoted is very revealing. You could quote 95% of workplace deaths are male, men in part time jobs paid less than women, women under the age of 40 paid more than men on avergetting. All misleading and not actually indicative of discrimination but the only one quoted over and over again is the false claim that won are paid less than men for the same work.

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"Men work more dangerous jobs (so almost all workplace deaths are male) and tend to work in jobs with less flexibility in hours." The statistic is for men and women doing the same work within the same job sector. Your comments are also invalidated.

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"Men work more dangerous jobs (so almost all workplace deaths are male) and tend to work in jobs with less flexibility in hours." The statistic is for men and women doing the same work within the same job sector. Your comments are also invalidated.

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Casey Casey (528 days ago)

You obviously don't get it. Statistics mean NOTHING if you don't know the reasoning behind them. In that video it showed that women earn less than men on average in the White House, under the Obama administration, by roughly the same percentage as the population as a whole. The spokesperson said it was because of different variables ... But, like you, refuses to correlate those exact same variables to the general public. You must see by now your position is just plain wrong, all evidence, even from the Obama White House you used to refute that women are payed less than men, how do you explain that? Your position just doesn't stand up to scrutiny.

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You obviously don't get it. Statistics mean NOTHING if you don't know the reasoning behind them. In that video it showed that women earn less than men on average in the White House, under the Obama administration, by roughly the same percentage as the population as a whole. The spokesperson said it was because of different variables ... But, like you, refuses to correlate those exact same variables to the general public. You must see by now your position is just plain wrong, all evidence, even from the Obama White House you used to refute that women are payed less than men, how do you explain that? Your position just doesn't stand up to scrutiny.

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