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Brexit voters willing to swap EU market for immigration control

Brexit voters willing to swap EU market for immigration control

(6:26) Many who voted to leave the EU did so to stop more immigration. But are they prepared to pay the economic price of tarif-free access to the EU's single market? youtube.com/user/vice

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Guest: noname (528 days ago)

How much for independece? :)

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How much for independece? :)

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Guest: Count me in (528 days ago)

How much indeed. It's going to be expensive. But what do you mean by independence? The UK depends on food imports. The UK depends on Nato. The UK depends on Russian gas supplies, on foreign health workers and fruit pickers. We depend on international treaties to keep us safe from pollution, disease, climate change, criminals, ... the list goes on.

So what exactly does independence mean to you? And how much is it going to cost me?

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How much indeed. It's going to be expensive. But what do you mean by independence? The UK depends on food imports. The UK depends on Nato. The UK depends on Russian gas supplies, on foreign health workers and fruit pickers. We depend on international treaties to keep us safe from pollution, disease, climate change, criminals, ... the list goes on.

So what exactly does independence mean to you? And how much is it going to cost me?

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Guest: noname (528 days ago)

I don't have a short answer to your question, so I'll ask you something.

If Germans started to move in large numbers to Poland's cost of Baltic Sea (which once was theirs), at what number Poles start to freak?

1, 2, 5 million or more.

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I don't have a short answer to your question, so I'll ask you something.

If Germans started to move in large numbers to Poland's cost of Baltic Sea (which once was theirs), at what number Poles start to freak?

1, 2, 5 million or more.

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Guest: The Mad (527 days ago)

Nato is independant of the EU, we also do have considerable intelligence links with the english speaking countries (which is the most comprehensive system in the world). Curiously the EU countries are somewhat reluctant to share intelligence between each other. This failure has been blamed for the current spate of bombing in europe. There are many benefits to forging links with the outside world, and reconnecting with the commonwealth, not least our common heritage, which cannot be underestimated. oh and Germany appears to be shelving climate change for now, as the reality of insecure powere production kicks in

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Nato is independant of the EU, we also do have considerable intelligence links with the english speaking countries (which is the most comprehensive system in the world). Curiously the EU countries are somewhat reluctant to share intelligence between each other. This failure has been blamed for the current spate of bombing in europe. There are many benefits to forging links with the outside world, and reconnecting with the commonwealth, not least our common heritage, which cannot be underestimated. oh and Germany appears to be shelving climate change for now, as the reality of insecure powere production kicks in

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Guest: Count me in (527 days ago)

Membership of Nato means giving up some sovereignty. You do realise that? The "all for one, one for all" rule of Nato means that we are committed to defend each other whether we want to or not.

" Curiously the EU countries are somewhat reluctant to share intelligence between each other. This failure has been blamed for the current spate of bombing in europe." You mean, they are acting independently? But you said that was a good thing.

Forging links with the outside world - I don't think that EU membership ever prevented us from doing that. We had New Zealand lamb in the shops. We had Chinese students at our universities. I assume you want to allow more of that: otherwise, what is the point of what you are saying?

As for Germany's power strategy, what does that have to do with anything?

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Membership of Nato means giving up some sovereignty. You do realise that? The "all for one, one for all" rule of Nato means that we are committed to defend each other whether we want to or not.

" Curiously the EU countries are somewhat reluctant to share intelligence between each other. This failure has been blamed for the current spate of bombing in europe." You mean, they are acting independently? But you said that was a good thing.

Forging links with the outside world - I don't think that EU membership ever prevented us from doing that. We had New Zealand lamb in the shops. We had Chinese students at our universities. I assume you want to allow more of that: otherwise, what is the point of what you are saying?

As for Germany's power strategy, what does that have to do with anything?

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Guest: The Mad (527 days ago)

We are part of an alliance, It is quite normal, however all our armed forces operate under conditions set out by UK law, and no commander foreign or otherwise can order them to break UK law. Thank you for reminding us that we can do trade with willing countries outside the protectionist EU.Oh and thank youalso for showing us that you are ignorant of the campaign to ban coal, and force proor people to freeze to death, aka climate change.

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We are part of an alliance, It is quite normal, however all our armed forces operate under conditions set out by UK law, and no commander foreign or otherwise can order them to break UK law. Thank you for reminding us that we can do trade with willing countries outside the protectionist EU.Oh and thank youalso for showing us that you are ignorant of the campaign to ban coal, and force proor people to freeze to death, aka climate change.

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Guest: Count me in (526 days ago)

And you think that They (Brussels, the Germans, the climate change campaign - I'm not sure who you think it is) can force Britons to break UK law just because we joined the EU club. Perhaps you can give us an example. One involving selling too-bendy bananas by the pound, maybe.

The EU is a club we joined; just like Nato and many other clubs. You give up something and get something back. Why do people join trade unions? You pay money and don't get any money back. Why do people get married? Generally one partner puts in more money than the other, and they both give up freedoms and independence. Why do people do that? Do you pay your taxes to the UK government? Some people pay in a lot more than they get back in benefitts and services. Why do they do that?

Of course you won't do any of these things because, independence.

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And you think that They (Brussels, the Germans, the climate change campaign - I'm not sure who you think it is) can force Britons to break UK law just because we joined the EU club. Perhaps you can give us an example. One involving selling too-bendy bananas by the pound, maybe.

The EU is a club we joined; just like Nato and many other clubs. You give up something and get something back. Why do people join trade unions? You pay money and don't get any money back. Why do people get married? Generally one partner puts in more money than the other, and they both give up freedoms and independence. Why do people do that? Do you pay your taxes to the UK government? Some people pay in a lot more than they get back in benefitts and services. Why do they do that?

Of course you won't do any of these things because, independence.

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Guest: The Mad (526 days ago)

what a shame you are trying to block me posting COWARD

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what a shame you are trying to block me posting COWARD

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Guest: The Mad (526 days ago)

Yep even France is have second thoughts about freedom of movement and minimum wage secondment

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Yep even France is have second thoughts about freedom of movement and minimum wage secondment

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Guest: The mad (526 days ago)

Look it up boys if you think The EU is good for the common working class

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Look it up boys if you think The EU is good for the common working class

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Guest: (526 days ago)

Hahaha! If you think brexit negotiations led by the right wing tory party and all its oxbridge elites like gove and johnson will ever be good for the common working man you just swallowed the scam hook line and sinker. they are laughing behind your back.

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Hahaha! If you think brexit negotiations led by the right wing tory party and all its oxbridge elites like gove and johnson will ever be good for the common working man you just swallowed the scam hook line and sinker. they are laughing behind your back.

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Guest: The mad (526 days ago)

It will sink in one day how deluded remain are about the EU

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It will sink in one day how deluded remain are about the EU

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Guest: (525 days ago)

Yeah with pound taking a plunge, the credit rating being dropped, companies already shifting their workforce out of the UK, the brexiteers admitting their lies, and the promise of immigration controls disappearing, something is definitely sinking in. Not noticed yet? A leave campaign run by the elite exploiting the naivity of the proletariat.

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Yeah with pound taking a plunge, the credit rating being dropped, companies already shifting their workforce out of the UK, the brexiteers admitting their lies, and the promise of immigration controls disappearing, something is definitely sinking in. Not noticed yet? A leave campaign run by the elite exploiting the naivity of the proletariat.

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Guest: The Mad (525 days ago)

And what does Drunckers et al represent ? fool

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And what does Drunckers et al represent ? fool

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Guest: (525 days ago)

juncker and tusk arent public school oxbridge elite, they went to a bog standard secondry schools. the EU isn't run by priveleged white guys like the tory party is. right wing public school oxbridge toffs like gove and johnson have tricked gullbile under educated idiots like yourself into thinking they will stand up for the working class. moron.

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juncker and tusk arent public school oxbridge elite, they went to a bog standard secondry schools. the EU isn't run by priveleged white guys like the tory party is. right wing public school oxbridge toffs like gove and johnson have tricked gullbile under educated idiots like yourself into thinking they will stand up for the working class. moron.

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Guest: The Mad (525 days ago)

Facepalm

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Facepalm

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Guest: (525 days ago)

Great! It finally sunk in and you cant give any reasons any more. Seeing you made a mistake is the first step. Dont worry, your not alone.

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Great! It finally sunk in and you cant give any reasons any more. Seeing you made a mistake is the first step. Dont worry, your not alone.

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Guest: The mad (524 days ago)

Sad loser aren't you

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Sad loser aren't you

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Guest: (524 days ago)

Haha as I thought. Don't feel bad there are millions of other people who were hood winked too.

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Haha as I thought. Don't feel bad there are millions of other people who were hood winked too.

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Guest: The mad (524 days ago)

Junckers set the tax haven luxembourg 3.5% corporation tax rate that allows big corporations to avoid paying tax in europe. Wise up ya idiot

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Junckers set the tax haven luxembourg 3.5% corporation tax rate that allows big corporations to avoid paying tax in europe. Wise up ya idiot

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Guest: Count me in (526 days ago)

Huh? What super powers do you think I have?

I never thought all Leavers were crazy, but I am thinking all crazies are Leavers.

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Huh? What super powers do you think I have?

I never thought all Leavers were crazy, but I am thinking all crazies are Leavers.

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Casey Casey (528 days ago)

The cost is huge, you either go down with a sinking ship(the EU) or go your own way. At least going your own way is choosing your own destiny.

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The cost is huge, you either go down with a sinking ship(the EU) or go your own way. At least going your own way is choosing your own destiny.

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WalterEgo WalterEgo (526 days ago)

There is a third choice of course - that's to stay on the ship and plug the holes. After all, it's the best ship we've got.

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There is a third choice of course - that's to stay on the ship and plug the holes. After all, it's the best ship we've got.

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Casey Casey (526 days ago)

For the most part the holes are too big and too many to fix, better to scupper that ship and either build a better one or just let everyone build there own again. If it wasn't Btitain it would have been some one else, the EU is toast and was heading that way way before Brexit. Next year will see more countries leave and economies collapse, like Greece only worse. The main problem has always been the EU, not Britain.

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For the most part the holes are too big and too many to fix, better to scupper that ship and either build a better one or just let everyone build there own again. If it wasn't Btitain it would have been some one else, the EU is toast and was heading that way way before Brexit. Next year will see more countries leave and economies collapse, like Greece only worse. The main problem has always been the EU, not Britain.

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Guest: (526 days ago)

What on earth makes you think the tories or labour are capable of plugging those holes? We've seen how little leverage Cameron had.

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What on earth makes you think the tories or labour are capable of plugging those holes? We've seen how little leverage Cameron had.

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Guest: Count me in (526 days ago)

Good point. There are real problems with the SS EU, mostly about lack of accountability, excess bureaucracy and constitutional inertia. The UK leaving might shock the EU into changing for the better. Shame we won't benefit from that.

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Good point. There are real problems with the SS EU, mostly about lack of accountability, excess bureaucracy and constitutional inertia. The UK leaving might shock the EU into changing for the better. Shame we won't benefit from that.

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Guest: (526 days ago)

And if you realise that the tories and labour are incapable of plugging those holes, why would you want to shift all the power into their hands? With Brexit, the tories get more control, not less. Last year, less than 12 million people wanted a tory government, yet this year more than 17 million think our best bet is to give them a lot more control. Crazy.

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And if you realise that the tories and labour are incapable of plugging those holes, why would you want to shift all the power into their hands? With Brexit, the tories get more control, not less. Last year, less than 12 million people wanted a tory government, yet this year more than 17 million think our best bet is to give them a lot more control. Crazy.

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Guest: Count me in (526 days ago)

I don't follow you. Brexit means the UK will have less influence inside the EU - possibly none at all. Brexit also means the EU has less influence inside the UK - possibly none at all. That is less control all round.

The referendum was not an election. The number of tory or labour MPs is unchanged. So that has not changed the amount of control the tories have.

With Brexit, the UK govt (whatever party happens to be in power) has more control inside the UK. Bigger fish in a smaller pond? Is that what you mean?

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I don't follow you. Brexit means the UK will have less influence inside the EU - possibly none at all. Brexit also means the EU has less influence inside the UK - possibly none at all. That is less control all round.

The referendum was not an election. The number of tory or labour MPs is unchanged. So that has not changed the amount of control the tories have.

With Brexit, the UK govt (whatever party happens to be in power) has more control inside the UK. Bigger fish in a smaller pond? Is that what you mean?

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Guest: (526 days ago)

So yes, it does mean the tories (whoever is in control) will have more power within the UK. Bearing in mind 52 million britons decided not to vote for the tories in the last election, it seems strange that most of the voters in the referendum want them to get more control.

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So yes, it does mean the tories (whoever is in control) will have more power within the UK. Bearing in mind 52 million britons decided not to vote for the tories in the last election, it seems strange that most of the voters in the referendum want them to get more control.

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Guest: (526 days ago)

Theres no question about it. The UK cannot be a member of the single market. They voted out to stop free movement and that means out of the single market too. They made there bed so lie in it.

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Theres no question about it. The UK cannot be a member of the single market. They voted out to stop free movement and that means out of the single market too. They made there bed so lie in it.

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Guest: KennyOut (519 days ago)
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Yes.

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Yes.

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Guest: SteveL (527 days ago)

Is the factthat, @ 00:43 , the Union flag is being flown inverted a sign of what is to come. (The Union flag inverted is a sign that a vessel is in distress)

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Is the factthat, @ 00:43 , the Union flag is being flown inverted a sign of what is to come. (The Union flag inverted is a sign that a vessel is in distress)

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Guest: The Mad (527 days ago)

And the fact that all other Union flags are being flown the right way up is a sign that remain supporters really should accept the democratic vote

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And the fact that all other Union flags are being flown the right way up is a sign that remain supporters really should accept the democratic vote

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