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There is no direct evidence that nuclear weapons prevented a world war. Conversely, it is known that they nearly caused one. Joseph Rotblat, Polish nuclear physicist (1908 - 2005).
Rotblat was the only physicist to leave the Manhattan Project (development of nuclear weapons) on the grounds of conscience. More homepage quotes

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This is the big question. I am guessing that "nearly caused one" refers to the Cuba crisis.

The facts are that apart from Japan in 1945, these weapons have not been used in anger. "Nearly caused one" means "did not cause one" - and anyway, that is a matter of opinion, since it is counterfactual.

The problem is how to interpret the facts. *Something* has prevented another world war. What do you suppose it is? Could it be that humans over the planet have changed their natures and now see that we are all brothers and sisters? Or could it be that human nature has not changed and we are all scared shitless, but not to the extent of mutually assured destruction?

It looks to me as if the presence of these weapons is the factor that has changed, not human nature. Our challenge is to change the world so that it is obvious that they are not necessary. Only then will lay them down.

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This is the big question. I am guessing that "nearly caused one" refers to the Cuba crisis.

The facts are that apart from Japan in 1945, these weapons have not been used in anger. "Nearly caused one" means "did not cause one" - and anyway, that is a matter of opinion, since it is counterfactual.

The problem is how to interpret the facts. *Something* has prevented another world war. What do you suppose it is? Could it be that humans over the planet have changed their natures and now see that we are all brothers and sisters? Or could it be that human nature has not changed and we are all scared shitless, but not to the extent of mutually assured destruction?

It looks to me as if the presence of these weapons is the factor that has changed, not human nature. Our challenge is to change the world so that it is obvious that they are not necessary. Only then will lay them down.

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Why assume that something is preventing a world war that would have otherwise happened? That also seem distinctly counterfactual. More likely that nothing is preventing it, per se, and human nature hasn't changed, but that there are now greater unions between countries and more trade partnerships, there are fewer militaristic empires, and international politics is radically different to how it was in the 40s. That's not to say it won't happen, but just that the kind of political ignition that was present in the last two world wars isn't present at the moment.

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Why assume that something is preventing a world war that would have otherwise happened? That also seem distinctly counterfactual. More likely that nothing is preventing it, per se, and human nature hasn't changed, but that there are now greater unions between countries and more trade partnerships, there are fewer militaristic empires, and international politics is radically different to how it was in the 40s. That's not to say it won't happen, but just that the kind of political ignition that was present in the last two world wars isn't present at the moment.

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Why? Because of history.

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Why? Because of history.

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End all Nuclear weapons and end Nuclear power generating plants.Sustainable energy production can be 100% fossil free and nuclear free.

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End all Nuclear weapons and end Nuclear power generating plants.Sustainable energy production can be 100% fossil free and nuclear free.

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Why not just end all unhappiness in any form while you're at it.

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Why not just end all unhappiness in any form while you're at it.

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