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Guest: (55 days ago)

This video is more entertaining than any of George Michael's music videos.

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This video is more entertaining than any of George Michael's music videos.

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Guest: Pip B (58 days ago)

Who at BoreMe could have such bad taste - RIP George Michael.

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Who at BoreMe could have such bad taste - RIP George Michael.

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Guest: (58 days ago)

Who has such bad taste to jump on a bandwagon and create a 'tribute' to a very mediocre performer and a very flawed human being? In the year that Bowie and Prince died, who is George Michael?

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Who has such bad taste to jump on a bandwagon and create a 'tribute' to a very mediocre performer and a very flawed human being? In the year that Bowie and Prince died, who is George Michael?

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Guest: Pip B (57 days ago)

He sold more than 100 million records worldwide. His debut solo album, Faith (1987), sold more than 20 million copies worldwide. Michael garnered seven number one singles in the UK and eight number one hits on the Billboard Hot 100 in the US, including "Careless Whisper" and "Freedom! '90". He ranks among the best-selling British acts of all time, ranked by Billboard magazine as the 40th-most successful artist ever. Michael won various music awards throughout his 30-year career, including three Brit Awards—he won Best British Male twice, four MTV Video Music Awards, four Ivor Novello Awards, three American Music Awards, and two Grammy Awards from eight nominations. He was an active LGBT rights campaigner and HIV/AIDS charity fundraiser. In 2004, the Radio Academy named Michael the most played artist on British radio during the period 1984–2004.

WHAT HAVE YOU DONE WITH YOUR LIFE - DICKHEAD?

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He sold more than 100 million records worldwide. His debut solo album, Faith (1987), sold more than 20 million copies worldwide. Michael garnered seven number one singles in the UK and eight number one hits on the Billboard Hot 100 in the US, including "Careless Whisper" and "Freedom! '90". He ranks among the best-selling British acts of all time, ranked by Billboard magazine as the 40th-most successful artist ever. Michael won various music awards throughout his 30-year career, including three Brit Awards—he won Best British Male twice, four MTV Video Music Awards, four Ivor Novello Awards, three American Music Awards, and two Grammy Awards from eight nominations. He was an active LGBT rights campaigner and HIV/AIDS charity fundraiser. In 2004, the Radio Academy named Michael the most played artist on British radio during the period 1984–2004.

WHAT HAVE YOU DONE WITH YOUR LIFE - DICKHEAD?

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Guest: (57 days ago)

Congratulations, you know how to copy and paste from Wikipedia. You must be a real fan.

Unfortunately, as we all know, fame and public recognition is no guarantee of talent. Best British male has also been won by Daniel Beddingfield, James Blunt. Blink 182 have won an MTV award. Right Said Fred have won a Novello. Etc. etc.

Like most people I know, I have done more with my life than gyrating in front of cameras singing naff songs, taking drugs, and engaging in lewd behaviour in public toilets.

Maybe you actually like George Michael's music, or maybe you're just not strong enough to resist being suckered into the mass hysteria around his death. It's never nice when people die, but we've lost from historical and monumentous characters this year. George Michael ain't one.

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Congratulations, you know how to copy and paste from Wikipedia. You must be a real fan.

Unfortunately, as we all know, fame and public recognition is no guarantee of talent. Best British male has also been won by Daniel Beddingfield, James Blunt. Blink 182 have won an MTV award. Right Said Fred have won a Novello. Etc. etc.

Like most people I know, I have done more with my life than gyrating in front of cameras singing naff songs, taking drugs, and engaging in lewd behaviour in public toilets.

Maybe you actually like George Michael's music, or maybe you're just not strong enough to resist being suckered into the mass hysteria around his death. It's never nice when people die, but we've lost from historical and monumentous characters this year. George Michael ain't one.

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Guest: Pip B (57 days ago)

I'm not a fan of george Michael's, but I am a musician and I am able to respect what he has done. Just the fact that you call him a "very flawed human being" shows me what an primitive you are. I have never met any artist or person for that matter who wasn't flawed as you say it. And yes, I have even met David Bowie and Prince - so just go and crawl under your rock and masturbate about how wonderful you are!

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I'm not a fan of george Michael's, but I am a musician and I am able to respect what he has done. Just the fact that you call him a "very flawed human being" shows me what an primitive you are. I have never met any artist or person for that matter who wasn't flawed as you say it. And yes, I have even met David Bowie and Prince - so just go and crawl under your rock and masturbate about how wonderful you are!

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Guest: (57 days ago)

Once you get over your Daily Mail sensationalised shock death syndrome, he will have little enduring legacy. He was more flawed than most, and that is saying something.

I am also a musician, which is why I have very little respect for the generic commercial manufactured pop that he created: "Wake me up before you go-go. Don't leave me hanging on like a yo-yo". I mean seriously. It's hardly Shakespeare, sweetheart.

Oooooh you have met Bowie and Prince. Can I have your autograph? I always wanted to meet a celebrity obsessed sycophant. Perhaps one day you'll realise that just because someone has had the spotlight of fame on them, or has courted the press, that doesn't make them a better or more interesting human being, and it doesn't mean we have to wallow in hysterical overblown mourning at their demise. Put your celebrity gossip mags down and get a little perspective.

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Once you get over your Daily Mail sensationalised shock death syndrome, he will have little enduring legacy. He was more flawed than most, and that is saying something.

I am also a musician, which is why I have very little respect for the generic commercial manufactured pop that he created: "Wake me up before you go-go. Don't leave me hanging on like a yo-yo". I mean seriously. It's hardly Shakespeare, sweetheart.

Oooooh you have met Bowie and Prince. Can I have your autograph? I always wanted to meet a celebrity obsessed sycophant. Perhaps one day you'll realise that just because someone has had the spotlight of fame on them, or has courted the press, that doesn't make them a better or more interesting human being, and it doesn't mean we have to wallow in hysterical overblown mourning at their demise. Put your celebrity gossip mags down and get a little perspective.

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Guest: Pip B (57 days ago)

Sorry precious, I didn't mean to upset you so much. If you were even a half decent musician you would understand where I'm coming from. Sadly, you just seem to be a pathetic individual with an inflated ego. And if it makes you feel any better, then lets pretend I've never met Bowie or Prince.
Felling any better now precious?

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Sorry precious, I didn't mean to upset you so much. If you were even a half decent musician you would understand where I'm coming from. Sadly, you just seem to be a pathetic individual with an inflated ego. And if it makes you feel any better, then lets pretend I've never met Bowie or Prince.
Felling any better now precious?

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Guest: (57 days ago)

Oh, I'm the one who's upset? I seem to remember someone calling me a 'dickhead' in capital letters not so long ago. It's OK - let it all out, honey. Your hero is gone; it's hard for you. Where on earth will you get your mediocre pop from now?

Yes, I'm sure all half-decent musicians think 'Wake me up before you go-go' is a lyrical masterpiece, along with his other works of genius. It sounds like you're a true conoisseur of musical talent -I am humbled by your expertise. I think all the session musicians I know are die-hard fans of Wham!

I'm quite happy to admit you've probably seen those people. Did I forget to say 'WOW, that's AMAZING!'? Sure, you seem to be a mindless suck-up with an obsession with celebrity, and I know plenty of people who have hung around at backstage doors, desperate to see someone 'famous' to give their lives a little meaning. Good for you. I'm sure it was lovely for you. An anecdote like that almost makes you an interesting and worthwhile person.

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Oh, I'm the one who's upset? I seem to remember someone calling me a 'dickhead' in capital letters not so long ago. It's OK - let it all out, honey. Your hero is gone; it's hard for you. Where on earth will you get your mediocre pop from now?

Yes, I'm sure all half-decent musicians think 'Wake me up before you go-go' is a lyrical masterpiece, along with his other works of genius. It sounds like you're a true conoisseur of musical talent -I am humbled by your expertise. I think all the session musicians I know are die-hard fans of Wham!

I'm quite happy to admit you've probably seen those people. Did I forget to say 'WOW, that's AMAZING!'? Sure, you seem to be a mindless suck-up with an obsession with celebrity, and I know plenty of people who have hung around at backstage doors, desperate to see someone 'famous' to give their lives a little meaning. Good for you. I'm sure it was lovely for you. An anecdote like that almost makes you an interesting and worthwhile person.

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Guest: Pip B (57 days ago)

Oh… Lordy precious, 'DICKHEAD' in capitals. Mmm… I should learn to bite my tongue. Anyway, goodbye precious because I just don't want to waste anymore time wasting good capitals on a creep like you.

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Oh… Lordy precious, 'DICKHEAD' in capitals. Mmm… I should learn to bite my tongue. Anyway, goodbye precious because I just don't want to waste anymore time wasting good capitals on a creep like you.

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Guest: (57 days ago)

No no - it's fine. I just thought it was a bit ironic that you were accusing me of being upset when you threw your dolly out of the pram with your very first comment. Poor poppet. No sense of humour about the tongue-in-cheek video? I'm so awfully sorry that not everyone succumbs to mass hysteria like you, and not all of us care whether you met your pop idols or not.

Anyway, as a mark of respect, I'd like to leave you with the profound unedited words of George Michael himself (from his hit 'Everything She Wants'):

"Uh huh huh,
Oh, oh,
Uh huh huh,
Doo doo doo,
La la la la".

His music will never die.

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No no - it's fine. I just thought it was a bit ironic that you were accusing me of being upset when you threw your dolly out of the pram with your very first comment. Poor poppet. No sense of humour about the tongue-in-cheek video? I'm so awfully sorry that not everyone succumbs to mass hysteria like you, and not all of us care whether you met your pop idols or not.

Anyway, as a mark of respect, I'd like to leave you with the profound unedited words of George Michael himself (from his hit 'Everything She Wants'):

"Uh huh huh,
Oh, oh,
Uh huh huh,
Doo doo doo,
La la la la".

His music will never die.

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Guest: libotomized idiots (56 days ago)

Oh dear not only a creep, but pig ignorant on music too.

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Oh dear not only a creep, but pig ignorant on music too.

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Guest: Retarded Rightwing (56 days ago)

pmsl thats all i need to know. not only is retarded rightwing a gullible wingnut but he is a wham fan too!! not suprised!! LMFAO!!!!!!!!!!!

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pmsl thats all i need to know. not only is retarded rightwing a gullible wingnut but he is a wham fan too!! not suprised!! LMFAO!!!!!!!!!!!

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Guest: Lobotomised libtard (55 days ago)

No ya twat, just have a fully rounded education. Singing without words has a long tradition in music. You shown yourself up again ya retard

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No ya twat, just have a fully rounded education. Singing without words has a long tradition in music. You shown yourself up again ya retard

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Guest: Retarded Rightwing (55 days ago)

HA HA HA HA HA HA conservatard just said fully rounded education!!! thats fking funny AF. you are the least educated dumbass on here as every one knows. you dont understand science or climate or geography or seo or plants or anything!! you once pretended you were a physics graduate HA HA HA!!! so what did you learn in your education? other than a life long passion for wham? once more you have been humilated.

i am not suprised music without decent lyrics is your cup of tea. i guess its about concentration span. or maybe you and your partner are just happy to look at the videos of the guys grinding in shorts. what ever floats your boat dumbass conservatard.

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HA HA HA HA HA HA conservatard just said fully rounded education!!! thats fking funny AF. you are the least educated dumbass on here as every one knows. you dont understand science or climate or geography or seo or plants or anything!! you once pretended you were a physics graduate HA HA HA!!! so what did you learn in your education? other than a life long passion for wham? once more you have been humilated.

i am not suprised music without decent lyrics is your cup of tea. i guess its about concentration span. or maybe you and your partner are just happy to look at the videos of the guys grinding in shorts. what ever floats your boat dumbass conservatard.

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Guest: (55 days ago)

Excellent... why doesn't it shock me that 'MAD' jumps on a bandwagon like this. To be fair, if his usual performance is anything to go by, he won't have a clue who Wham! is, and probably hasn't heard their music; He has just skim read some eulogy on Breitbart and now knows what he has to say.

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Excellent... why doesn't it shock me that 'MAD' jumps on a bandwagon like this. To be fair, if his usual performance is anything to go by, he won't have a clue who Wham! is, and probably hasn't heard their music; He has just skim read some eulogy on Breitbart and now knows what he has to say.

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Guest: libotomised libtards (55 days ago)

Thats exactly what a libtard says when faced with overwhelming music prowess like Wham. Of course you dont understand the beautiful and effecting music that George created, he was the voice of the people and a fashion icon and wasn't part of the liberal elitism that you believe in. I dont care what you Alinsky morons say. The world is poorer for losing him. You don't need any sources or graphs to know that. The Breitbat obituary is testament to the captain of love. I will forever drink at the Club Tropicana.

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Thats exactly what a libtard says when faced with overwhelming music prowess like Wham. Of course you dont understand the beautiful and effecting music that George created, he was the voice of the people and a fashion icon and wasn't part of the liberal elitism that you believe in. I dont care what you Alinsky morons say. The world is poorer for losing him. You don't need any sources or graphs to know that. The Breitbat obituary is testament to the captain of love. I will forever drink at the Club Tropicana.

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Guest: Irv (51 days ago)

Btw good example of an impersonation. Sad huh

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Btw good example of an impersonation. Sad huh

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Guest: libturds for life (55 days ago)

Enjoy chatting to your sockpuppet ?.

You could of course simply look up scat singing, or better still listen to the many such examples in the classical repertoire, Burt of course you won't.

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Enjoy chatting to your sockpuppet ?.

You could of course simply look up scat singing, or better still listen to the many such examples in the classical repertoire, Burt of course you won't.

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Guest: Yee Ha (55 days ago)

You like chatting to yourself as usual ?. And responding to your own comments. I would never ever ever do that. Only a retard would do that.

As I was saying everyone knows that Wham is basically classical music. They are the same level of musicality and are in the same repetoire. My partner and I are also musicians and we love a bit of Wham and a bit of Beethoven and some Cher. Libtards will never get it because they don't have the rounded education. I would give you sources and examples but libturds don't read sources or examples.

Hilarious

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You like chatting to yourself as usual ?. And responding to your own comments. I would never ever ever do that. Only a retard would do that.

As I was saying everyone knows that Wham is basically classical music. They are the same level of musicality and are in the same repetoire. My partner and I are also musicians and we love a bit of Wham and a bit of Beethoven and some Cher. Libtards will never get it because they don't have the rounded education. I would give you sources and examples but libturds don't read sources or examples.

Hilarious

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Guest: Libs never geddit (54 days ago)

You always know when you've hit gold with the poor ickle sore bum libturds

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You always know when you've hit gold with the poor ickle sore bum libturds

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Guest: Libs sure are dumb (54 days ago)

And despite what the graniud says there is nothing wrong with liking it sore. When they start mocking my sexuality I know the libtards have lost yet again. I guess the sheepie elites never educated themselves with Wham like the classical conoiseurs like myself and my man. I would never be embarassed for sticking up George Michael. It would be my pleasure !. I guess they don't understand pop or scientifics like I do. And not answering questions is a sign of my intelligence. I don't need to explain anything. Poor dumb libtards just need to check Breitbart like we fact checkers do

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And despite what the graniud says there is nothing wrong with liking it sore. When they start mocking my sexuality I know the libtards have lost yet again. I guess the sheepie elites never educated themselves with Wham like the classical conoiseurs like myself and my man. I would never be embarassed for sticking up George Michael. It would be my pleasure !. I guess they don't understand pop or scientifics like I do. And not answering questions is a sign of my intelligence. I don't need to explain anything. Poor dumb libtards just need to check Breitbart like we fact checkers do

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Guest: Libs never learn (54 days ago)

Yep Pip B had you down to a tee. What was that she said ? .........

Oh yes "Just go an crawl under your rock and masterbate about how wonderful you are "

Seems to have very quickly jumped to the same opinion as everybody else who receives replies from you, to their comments on here.

Funny how that seems to keep on happening time and time again

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Yep Pip B had you down to a tee. What was that she said ? .........

Oh yes "Just go an crawl under your rock and masterbate about how wonderful you are "

Seems to have very quickly jumped to the same opinion as everybody else who receives replies from you, to their comments on here.

Funny how that seems to keep on happening time and time again

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Guest: (54 days ago)

I'm not sure if you're replying to me or the other guest. I'm afraid I have another question for you: "Very quickly jumped to the same opinion as everybody else who receives replies from you" - everyone else? Can you name 2 other commenters (not including your multiple sock puppets) who has disagreed with me? Go on. If you're not just lying or deluded when you say 'everyone', then naming 2 people will be easy. I wonder. Don't worry, I know you can't answer questions. Again, I just like watching your squirm when faced with an easy question.

I have only seen you agree with one person on here, and that's over your shared passion for the music of Wham! (and your fondness for bizarrely sexual insults). On literally every thread, it seems to be someone else wiping the floor with you, and highlighting your ignorance. Walter? TheBob? FactCheck? Retarded Rightwing? Anyone that is here on a regular basis has had their turn baiting the village idiot.

So yes, Hemingway... it does seem to happen a lot with you. People just can't resist the urge to humiliate you and parade your comprehensive ignorance. Whether it's faux-science, literacy, SEO, music or even horticulture, you just make it so. easy . Thanks. You make this site much more entertaining!

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I'm not sure if you're replying to me or the other guest. I'm afraid I have another question for you: "Very quickly jumped to the same opinion as everybody else who receives replies from you" - everyone else? Can you name 2 other commenters (not including your multiple sock puppets) who has disagreed with me? Go on. If you're not just lying or deluded when you say 'everyone', then naming 2 people will be easy. I wonder. Don't worry, I know you can't answer questions. Again, I just like watching your squirm when faced with an easy question.

I have only seen you agree with one person on here, and that's over your shared passion for the music of Wham! (and your fondness for bizarrely sexual insults). On literally every thread, it seems to be someone else wiping the floor with you, and highlighting your ignorance. Walter? TheBob? FactCheck? Retarded Rightwing? Anyone that is here on a regular basis has had their turn baiting the village idiot.

So yes, Hemingway... it does seem to happen a lot with you. People just can't resist the urge to humiliate you and parade your comprehensive ignorance. Whether it's faux-science, literacy, SEO, music or even horticulture, you just make it so. easy . Thanks. You make this site much more entertaining!

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Guest: Libs never wise up (54 days ago)

Yawn, of course this would all be so very believable except for the simple fact that you abuse everyone else who ventures by with an opinion that doesn't match yours, ( like Pip B above ).

I enjoy showing how limited your little world is, and how much of your opinions is force fed to you and your "pals"

Have fun libturd boy.

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Yawn, of course this would all be so very believable except for the simple fact that you abuse everyone else who ventures by with an opinion that doesn't match yours, ( like Pip B above ).

I enjoy showing how limited your little world is, and how much of your opinions is force fed to you and your "pals"

Have fun libturd boy.

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Guest: (54 days ago)

Oops - looks like you missed the question! Do you want another go? You said everyone disagrees with me - and now you say I abuse everyone - could you give me 2 examples of those people, other than yourself and Pip B? Go on. This is your chance to show us that you're not a half-wit and that the things you say are true - the chance to show that you at least understand your own opinions enough to answer questions about them!

Yes, I feel smug, and now entitled to mock you, because you're completely ridiculous, hypocritical, and gullible. That's why everyone else mocks you too - it's hardly just me! As I said, it's too easy. You tie yourself up. You complain about force-feeding opinions, when yours come directly (and exclusively) from Breitbart, (I mean even your insults are pre-approved!). You say things like 'Nullis in verba' (sic), when you are literally the only commenter here who has consistently failed to back up a single one of your Breitbart-brainwashed-opi nions. And best of all, when you directly contradict yourself, or say something that is easily and provably incorrect ("money trees don't exist"), you're just not smart enough or brave enough to admit it. You just come out with the generic abuse from Breitbart instead. You're like a Sacha Baron Cohen character, but in real life. It's honestly amazing. You are a joke, and heck, we laugh. Keep it up.

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Oops - looks like you missed the question! Do you want another go? You said everyone disagrees with me - and now you say I abuse everyone - could you give me 2 examples of those people, other than yourself and Pip B? Go on. This is your chance to show us that you're not a half-wit and that the things you say are true - the chance to show that you at least understand your own opinions enough to answer questions about them!

Yes, I feel smug, and now entitled to mock you, because you're completely ridiculous, hypocritical, and gullible. That's why everyone else mocks you too - it's hardly just me! As I said, it's too easy. You tie yourself up. You complain about force-feeding opinions, when yours come directly (and exclusively) from Breitbart, (I mean even your insults are pre-approved!). You say things like 'Nullis in verba' (sic), when you are literally the only commenter here who has consistently failed to back up a single one of your Breitbart-brainwashed-opi nions. And best of all, when you directly contradict yourself, or say something that is easily and provably incorrect ("money trees don't exist"), you're just not smart enough or brave enough to admit it. You just come out with the generic abuse from Breitbart instead. You're like a Sacha Baron Cohen character, but in real life. It's honestly amazing. You are a joke, and heck, we laugh. Keep it up.

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Guest: Lobotomised idiot (53 days ago)

You need to see a psychiatrist if you can see any sexual content in my posts. One can only guess at your responses to a rorchach test.

Btw, no-one actually reads the whole of your rants,I just skim em, this is what they look like to me

Blah blah blah blah breibart blah blah blah sexual ?????? Wtf blah blah blah blah blah breibart etc etc.

I guess breibart has taken over from the Koch brothers in lobotomised litard circles as the excuse for ignoring incoming info

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You need to see a psychiatrist if you can see any sexual content in my posts. One can only guess at your responses to a rorchach test.

Btw, no-one actually reads the whole of your rants,I just skim em, this is what they look like to me

Blah blah blah blah breibart blah blah blah sexual ?????? Wtf blah blah blah blah blah breibart etc etc.

I guess breibart has taken over from the Koch brothers in lobotomised litard circles as the excuse for ignoring incoming info

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Guest: Captain Colloquism (53 days ago)

This is what I've been saying all along. You're simply not sharp enough to see your hypocrisy. I will point it out for you here, again, and you still won't get it.

You come out with gems like "Loving the libtard circle jerk", and I won't get started on your homoerotic insults from your Bemused / Asterix / Getafix (etc etc) sockpuppets (or am I not supposed to know those are you as well?) And yet your brain still allows you to say "you need to see a psychiatrist if you can see any sexual content in my posts". You have an exceptionally very low level of understanding, of self-awareness. It hovers somewhere between endearing and amusing, and results in some clangers of hypocrisy.

Don't worry; I have never thought you'd be able to read all my posts. You can't use simple links, you can't answer multiple choice questions, you literally can't follow your own argument or back it up, and you have pitiful levels of literacy - so no, I wouldn't expect you to have the skills or diligence to read a few hundred words. That's OK.

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This is what I've been saying all along. You're simply not sharp enough to see your hypocrisy. I will point it out for you here, again, and you still won't get it.

You come out with gems like "Loving the libtard circle jerk", and I won't get started on your homoerotic insults from your Bemused / Asterix / Getafix (etc etc) sockpuppets (or am I not supposed to know those are you as well?) And yet your brain still allows you to say "you need to see a psychiatrist if you can see any sexual content in my posts". You have an exceptionally very low level of understanding, of self-awareness. It hovers somewhere between endearing and amusing, and results in some clangers of hypocrisy.

Don't worry; I have never thought you'd be able to read all my posts. You can't use simple links, you can't answer multiple choice questions, you literally can't follow your own argument or back it up, and you have pitiful levels of literacy - so no, I wouldn't expect you to have the skills or diligence to read a few hundred words. That's OK.

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Guest: Technicolour yawn (52 days ago)

Oh I could read it, but there's no point, it's not as if you've anything intelligent to impart.

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Oh I could read it, but there's no point, it's not as if you've anything intelligent to impart.

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Guest: Captain Colloquism (52 days ago)

Hah! In other words... "Damn, this guy has just demonstrated my hypocrisy yet again.... taxi!"

I mean really, were you honestly not aware of how often you use sexual insults? If it wasn't intelligent of me to point that out, yet apparently still beyond you to notice it for yourself, how does that reflect on you? Bless your pigeon brain.

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Hah! In other words... "Damn, this guy has just demonstrated my hypocrisy yet again.... taxi!"

I mean really, were you honestly not aware of how often you use sexual insults? If it wasn't intelligent of me to point that out, yet apparently still beyond you to notice it for yourself, how does that reflect on you? Bless your pigeon brain.

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Guest: Libs never learn (52 days ago)

Could you give us an example ?, Cos like everybody else we are all at sea,

Btw you do realise that people generally can tell the differenc between me and those that copy my handle.

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Could you give us an example ?, Cos like everybody else we are all at sea,

Btw you do realise that people generally can tell the differenc between me and those that copy my handle.

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Guest: Captain Colloquism (52 days ago)

You want examples? Sources?

But I thought we aren't supposed to do that. What about 'nullis in verba' (sic)? What about "verify for yourself"?

I thought "it's up to you to look it up"? I mean the examples "are still there and accessable, not only to me, but to you, and anyone else who cares to check".

"By all means explore them, but for goodness sake wean your self off of the childish habit of having to have put the info in front of you".

I mean, "I'm quite sure that most of the readers can quickly find the relevant info, maybe one of them can do a link to help out the poor guy".

I mean, "Goodness me when i was at University, I wouldn't have dared ask a lecturer where to find Information, you were expected to locate it yourself,".

In my view, "The internet is a godsend for quick retrieval, but it has produced a generation of people who lack the nous to do their own digging".

And of course "the ability to conduct independent verification is such an important skill in this day and age, it's not my fault that you appear to be incapable of locating them".

Ho ho. It's not that I'm using this as just another example of your rib-tickling hypocrisy. Sonny, when I can literally use your exact, unedited words to argue with you, you know you're missing something.

Again, don't worry. I know you don't look at sources or do any sort of information gathering, and I am one of those people that actually has opinions I can justify, so these are a few of your sexual turns of phrase:

"You have an unbreakable Circle Jerk bubble", "Loving the libtard circle jerk", "unrequited slushy manlove", "worthy of unabashed manlove", and most recently, your enthusiastic agreement with a fellow Wham!-fan "Oh yes "Just go an crawl under your rock and masterbate about how wonderful you are".

But don't worry. None of that is sexual or gay at all.

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You want examples? Sources?

But I thought we aren't supposed to do that. What about 'nullis in verba' (sic)? What about "verify for yourself"?

I thought "it's up to you to look it up"? I mean the examples "are still there and accessable, not only to me, but to you, and anyone else who cares to check".

"By all means explore them, but for goodness sake wean your self off of the childish habit of having to have put the info in front of you".

I mean, "I'm quite sure that most of the readers can quickly find the relevant info, maybe one of them can do a link to help out the poor guy".

I mean, "Goodness me when i was at University, I wouldn't have dared ask a lecturer where to find Information, you were expected to locate it yourself,".

In my view, "The internet is a godsend for quick retrieval, but it has produced a generation of people who lack the nous to do their own digging".

And of course "the ability to conduct independent verification is such an important skill in this day and age, it's not my fault that you appear to be incapable of locating them".

Ho ho. It's not that I'm using this as just another example of your rib-tickling hypocrisy. Sonny, when I can literally use your exact, unedited words to argue with you, you know you're missing something.

Again, don't worry. I know you don't look at sources or do any sort of information gathering, and I am one of those people that actually has opinions I can justify, so these are a few of your sexual turns of phrase:

"You have an unbreakable Circle Jerk bubble", "Loving the libtard circle jerk", "unrequited slushy manlove", "worthy of unabashed manlove", and most recently, your enthusiastic agreement with a fellow Wham!-fan "Oh yes "Just go an crawl under your rock and masterbate about how wonderful you are".

But don't worry. None of that is sexual or gay at all.

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Guest: Libs will be libs (52 days ago)

Well I can take credit for circle jerk, but it's a generic insult for people who seek out others of exactly the same views in order to pat each other on the back for thinking alike. Not really sexual.

The others I don't remember doing., although they are accurate and along the same lines. Different people arriving at the same conclusion speaks volumes

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Well I can take credit for circle jerk, but it's a generic insult for people who seek out others of exactly the same views in order to pat each other on the back for thinking alike. Not really sexual.

The others I don't remember doing., although they are accurate and along the same lines. Different people arriving at the same conclusion speaks volumes

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Guest: Captain Colloquism (52 days ago)

You're right, it's a generic insult - a generic sexual insult. You could say the same thing without turning it sexual, but you can't resist. Using homoerotic insults... I don't know, perhaps it's a Wham! fan thing?

OK, you don't remember saying the others. That's as good as not doing it, right? Unfortunately for you, you have a long history on here with plenty of different sock puppet names, and those threads are still around and available to read.

If you think "different people arriving at the same conclusion speaks volumes", then you must feel really low being on here. After-all, the consensus about you is obvious and unanimous. Yes, we've all arrived at the same conclusion about you. Before you get your hopes up, it's nothing sexual. You sometimes reply to your own messages with support, but then again, you so frequently contradict yourself (as I've shown), even you can't be relied upon to back you up. Try the Breitbart message forums where gullible parrots will be plentiful.

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You're right, it's a generic insult - a generic sexual insult. You could say the same thing without turning it sexual, but you can't resist. Using homoerotic insults... I don't know, perhaps it's a Wham! fan thing?

OK, you don't remember saying the others. That's as good as not doing it, right? Unfortunately for you, you have a long history on here with plenty of different sock puppet names, and those threads are still around and available to read.

If you think "different people arriving at the same conclusion speaks volumes", then you must feel really low being on here. After-all, the consensus about you is obvious and unanimous. Yes, we've all arrived at the same conclusion about you. Before you get your hopes up, it's nothing sexual. You sometimes reply to your own messages with support, but then again, you so frequently contradict yourself (as I've shown), even you can't be relied upon to back you up. Try the Breitbart message forums where gullible parrots will be plentiful.

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Guest: Libs will be libs (51 days ago)

Back to blah blah blah breibart I see. Btw I never use the word slushy. As I've hinted,people do impersonate me, hence my topical variations on a theme with the sign in.

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Back to blah blah blah breibart I see. Btw I never use the word slushy. As I've hinted,people do impersonate me, hence my topical variations on a theme with the sign in.

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Guest: (51 days ago)

Nice try. Is this what is has come to? Denying that you're you. Poor bugger.

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Nice try. Is this what is has come to? Denying that you're you. Poor bugger.

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Guest: trumpet (51 days ago)

it's not my fault you have to go incognito to try and get back at me.Anyway why do you attack allcomers onto this site, I mean it's not just me is it, it must be 99% of the rest of the world

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it's not my fault you have to go incognito to try and get back at me.Anyway why do you attack allcomers onto this site, I mean it's not just me is it, it must be 99% of the rest of the world

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Guest: Captain Colloquism (51 days ago)

I've asked you this twice so far, and twice you've refused to answer. Let me try one more time.

You say I attack all comers / everybody to this site. Other than you and Pip the Wham-fan, can you name 2 other commenters that I have attacked?

It seems to me that you're imagining that you are part of a large group who agree with one another, and I'm in a minority. The reality is the opposite (unless you can name names), in that I've literally never seen anyone agree with you, whereas I am just one of many many commenters that like to try and educate you from time to time.

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I've asked you this twice so far, and twice you've refused to answer. Let me try one more time.

You say I attack all comers / everybody to this site. Other than you and Pip the Wham-fan, can you name 2 other commenters that I have attacked?

It seems to me that you're imagining that you are part of a large group who agree with one another, and I'm in a minority. The reality is the opposite (unless you can name names), in that I've literally never seen anyone agree with you, whereas I am just one of many many commenters that like to try and educate you from time to time.

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Guest: irv (51 days ago)

Oh I've seen others come and go, but I hate to lay this on you, but there is a reason I use phrases like libtard circle jerk.Maybe you should get out more.

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Oh I've seen others come and go, but I hate to lay this on you, but there is a reason I use phrases like libtard circle jerk.Maybe you should get out more.

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Guest: Captain Colloquism (51 days ago)

Oh! So to be clear, on the third time of asking, you still can't name other people? You said it was everyone, and now you literally can't name one. Hah! I don't even think you believe the things you say because with the slightest pressure you can't back them up. Sorry to expose you once again.

Yes, I know there's a reason that you use phrases like libtard, and circle jerk: Libtard is gullible Breitbart speak, along with Alinsky, echochambers, crybullies, and a whole glossary of language invented by the right to foster a sense of unity - look into the concept of indexicality (part of sociolinguistics). It makes you feel part of something, gives you a confidence you would otherwise lack, and in your case most importantly saves you from having to think of original and bespoke criticisms. This is demonstrated by that fact that although I have revealed that I've never voted liberal in my life, yet still disagree with Trump and alt-right, you literally don't have the language to describe that position. You are in denial about my true stance because you have no tools to describe it, so you opt for the inaccurate pigeon-holes you've been taught instead. I know you don't get this, but it was worth saying.

And as for circle jerk, I assume you use that particular phrase (along with your other sexual terminology) because you have unresolved personal issues, partly relating to your sexuality, but also more generally with how you interact with others. The fact you can't even acknowledge it's sexual language is a good indicator. In your case, getting out more wouldn't help. You need professional assistance in managing your emotions etc.

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Oh! So to be clear, on the third time of asking, you still can't name other people? You said it was everyone, and now you literally can't name one. Hah! I don't even think you believe the things you say because with the slightest pressure you can't back them up. Sorry to expose you once again.

Yes, I know there's a reason that you use phrases like libtard, and circle jerk: Libtard is gullible Breitbart speak, along with Alinsky, echochambers, crybullies, and a whole glossary of language invented by the right to foster a sense of unity - look into the concept of indexicality (part of sociolinguistics). It makes you feel part of something, gives you a confidence you would otherwise lack, and in your case most importantly saves you from having to think of original and bespoke criticisms. This is demonstrated by that fact that although I have revealed that I've never voted liberal in my life, yet still disagree with Trump and alt-right, you literally don't have the language to describe that position. You are in denial about my true stance because you have no tools to describe it, so you opt for the inaccurate pigeon-holes you've been taught instead. I know you don't get this, but it was worth saying.

And as for circle jerk, I assume you use that particular phrase (along with your other sexual terminology) because you have unresolved personal issues, partly relating to your sexuality, but also more generally with how you interact with others. The fact you can't even acknowledge it's sexual language is a good indicator. In your case, getting out more wouldn't help. You need professional assistance in managing your emotions etc.

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Guest: irv (51 days ago)

You really need to get out more, talk to people, expand your horizons. This place is Groupthink central, and its standard for outsiders to get abuse from the group enforcer, to whit your treatment of Pip b above.

It's also standard for those within the circle including the enforcer to rationalise their bad behaviour,it's part of the reinforcement process, it ties the group together.

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You really need to get out more, talk to people, expand your horizons. This place is Groupthink central, and its standard for outsiders to get abuse from the group enforcer, to whit your treatment of Pip b above.

It's also standard for those within the circle including the enforcer to rationalise their bad behaviour,it's part of the reinforcement process, it ties the group together.

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Guest: Captain Colloquism (51 days ago)

You don't believe that I need to get out more - you know that you have the smallest social circle and reading range conceivable. In fact, you just don't believe most of what you say. You've just heard those expressions and they sound good, so you want to apply them to anything. I can ask you for an example, and you'll pull some more generic insults out of your Breitbart hat rather than explaining - maybe that's a typical Alinsky tactic? Maybe that's part of the leftist propaganda machine? Maybe I've been brainwashed by the liberal media? Or maybe you can't follow an argument. Like when you say 'everyone' and you can't give any examples other than you and one other, in the entire history of the site. Like when you complain about rationalising bad behaviour, after page upon page of infantile abuse. Like when you claim to be a fact-checker, after refusing to provide any outside data or evidence of fact-checking. Like when you swing between calling this an echo-chamber of just a single liberal elitist, and calling it a circle jerk of liberal elitists. Like when you claim liberals aren't interested in other opinions right after claiming to have read anti-Obama stuff in The Guardian. MAD, you just don't mind sense, kiddo. Sorry. I know you will put this down to liberal brainwashing, but I mean seriously, I have used your exact words to directly contradict you. Your own words! Not even you agrees with you. It can't be any clearer.

So yes, I do have a problem - it is that I waste time treating you as if you actually have something to say - as if you mean what you write and you have thought about it - as if at some point, you'll respond to the specific points that people make and engage. I'm wrong. Most people on here have fully-formed opinions... you ask them about what they believe, and they can explain it, more-or-less, without resorting to circular or generic assumptions applied without discretion. Yes, I have disagreed with others here, but we can get a discussion going. They can tell me why they think certain things, and give me sources, the premises of their arguments, and it's all quite mature. But not with you. You just can't do that.

Even someone with unpopular opinions like COncernedCitizen has the academic ability to follow a basic argument, and look at what people are saying to him. Again, that's just not your bag. So instead of challenging me on this, refuting my points above using examples, why don't you come out with some generalised insults that could be applied to anything. That'll do. It's about me lowering my expectations.

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You don't believe that I need to get out more - you know that you have the smallest social circle and reading range conceivable. In fact, you just don't believe most of what you say. You've just heard those expressions and they sound good, so you want to apply them to anything. I can ask you for an example, and you'll pull some more generic insults out of your Breitbart hat rather than explaining - maybe that's a typical Alinsky tactic? Maybe that's part of the leftist propaganda machine? Maybe I've been brainwashed by the liberal media? Or maybe you can't follow an argument. Like when you say 'everyone' and you can't give any examples other than you and one other, in the entire history of the site. Like when you complain about rationalising bad behaviour, after page upon page of infantile abuse. Like when you claim to be a fact-checker, after refusing to provide any outside data or evidence of fact-checking. Like when you swing between calling this an echo-chamber of just a single liberal elitist, and calling it a circle jerk of liberal elitists. Like when you claim liberals aren't interested in other opinions right after claiming to have read anti-Obama stuff in The Guardian. MAD, you just don't mind sense, kiddo. Sorry. I know you will put this down to liberal brainwashing, but I mean seriously, I have used your exact words to directly contradict you. Your own words! Not even you agrees with you. It can't be any clearer.

So yes, I do have a problem - it is that I waste time treating you as if you actually have something to say - as if you mean what you write and you have thought about it - as if at some point, you'll respond to the specific points that people make and engage. I'm wrong. Most people on here have fully-formed opinions... you ask them about what they believe, and they can explain it, more-or-less, without resorting to circular or generic assumptions applied without discretion. Yes, I have disagreed with others here, but we can get a discussion going. They can tell me why they think certain things, and give me sources, the premises of their arguments, and it's all quite mature. But not with you. You just can't do that.

Even someone with unpopular opinions like COncernedCitizen has the academic ability to follow a basic argument, and look at what people are saying to him. Again, that's just not your bag. So instead of challenging me on this, refuting my points above using examples, why don't you come out with some generalised insults that could be applied to anything. That'll do. It's about me lowering my expectations.

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Guest: Irv (50 days ago)

Hi been out socialising. One hell of an essay you've written, please get out more. Seriously, get out more

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Hi been out socialising. One hell of an essay you've written, please get out more. Seriously, get out more

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TheBob TheBob (50 days ago)

This is all frankly tedious, so I finally feel moved to chip in my "two pennorth".

What are you trying to achieve, "Irv" (in your latest personification)?

This site has liberals and libertarians, climate change deniers and affirmers, (people who post as) cats and dogs and many more flavours of opinion all banging away at each other.

A quick scoot through different threads shows a variety of opinions, debates and debating styles/abilities, sometimes witty, sometimes not - but usually addressing the other's arguments and positions.

I don't see Groupthink Central - and I don't see you addressing arguments. I see you and "Captain Colloquism" (in his latest personification) having a pissing contest - but at least he's addressing your points rather than just flinging insults.

If you don't like someone's opinion, show them how they're wrong: don't just call them a "libturd" - explain how they're a "libturd" and show them how their argument is wrong. You're doing yourself no favours, otherwise.

So what are you trying to achieve? If you're trying to win, go for it: take him on, show him where he's wrong, engage.

However, if you're just trying to have the last word ("you need to get out more", "No, YOU need to get out more", "No I've been out more recently than you", "Well my dad's bigger than your dad"), please be the bigger man and stop. It seems to be fun for you two, but it's not for the rest of us (or me at least)

I'm posting this in the full expectation of being voted down multiple times and being accused of groupthink-libtard echo-chamber-circle-jerki ng knee-jerk brainwashed-reaction but I've scrolled through enough.

Happy New Year everyone.

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This is all frankly tedious, so I finally feel moved to chip in my "two pennorth".

What are you trying to achieve, "Irv" (in your latest personification)?

This site has liberals and libertarians, climate change deniers and affirmers, (people who post as) cats and dogs and many more flavours of opinion all banging away at each other.

A quick scoot through different threads shows a variety of opinions, debates and debating styles/abilities, sometimes witty, sometimes not - but usually addressing the other's arguments and positions.

I don't see Groupthink Central - and I don't see you addressing arguments. I see you and "Captain Colloquism" (in his latest personification) having a pissing contest - but at least he's addressing your points rather than just flinging insults.

If you don't like someone's opinion, show them how they're wrong: don't just call them a "libturd" - explain how they're a "libturd" and show them how their argument is wrong. You're doing yourself no favours, otherwise.

So what are you trying to achieve? If you're trying to win, go for it: take him on, show him where he's wrong, engage.

However, if you're just trying to have the last word ("you need to get out more", "No, YOU need to get out more", "No I've been out more recently than you", "Well my dad's bigger than your dad"), please be the bigger man and stop. It seems to be fun for you two, but it's not for the rest of us (or me at least)

I'm posting this in the full expectation of being voted down multiple times and being accused of groupthink-libtard echo-chamber-circle-jerki ng knee-jerk brainwashed-reaction but I've scrolled through enough.

Happy New Year everyone.

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Guest: Captain Colloquism (50 days ago)

Thanks for your input, TheBob. At the risk of prompting another of MAD's bizarre sexual imaginings, I think you're right - though I would add that no one is forcing you to scroll through these threads.

I fell into this 'discussion' in the same way that you have done - by treating him like any other poster, and behaving as if he is trying to make reasoned and serious points that he is able to defend. Even now you are asking him questions, expecting him to rationalise.

So now we've established he can't do that, I confess I'm still here largely because I'm amused by it. The guy makes me laugh. I've never met anyone so completely incapable of supporting (or even coming up with) their own argument, yet who seems to still think they have the upper hand. It's like a Sacha Baron Cohen character. As soon as it stops giving me a giggle, I'll stop - rest assured.

So yes, it's futile from a discussion point of a view, but if it's not fun for you, don't feel obliged to follow it. After-all, he doesn't.

Happy new year to you too!

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Thanks for your input, TheBob. At the risk of prompting another of MAD's bizarre sexual imaginings, I think you're right - though I would add that no one is forcing you to scroll through these threads.

I fell into this 'discussion' in the same way that you have done - by treating him like any other poster, and behaving as if he is trying to make reasoned and serious points that he is able to defend. Even now you are asking him questions, expecting him to rationalise.

So now we've established he can't do that, I confess I'm still here largely because I'm amused by it. The guy makes me laugh. I've never met anyone so completely incapable of supporting (or even coming up with) their own argument, yet who seems to still think they have the upper hand. It's like a Sacha Baron Cohen character. As soon as it stops giving me a giggle, I'll stop - rest assured.

So yes, it's futile from a discussion point of a view, but if it's not fun for you, don't feel obliged to follow it. After-all, he doesn't.

Happy new year to you too!

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Guest: Libs never get it (50 days ago)

Thanks for your input Bob,I knew I would flush you out eventually.

But do tell me why I should play whack a mole with a gish galloping libtard ?

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Thanks for your input Bob,I knew I would flush you out eventually.

But do tell me why I should play whack a mole with a gish galloping libtard ?

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TheBob TheBob (50 days ago)

No need to repeat yourself - I heard you the first time.

If by " play whack a mole with a gish galloping libtard " you mean, "address the points raised by someone else," then I can think of at least four reasons to do so:

1) It tests your own reasoning and might make you inspect your beliefs which could take you out of your thought-bubble

2) It could do the same for someone else and you could persuade them to your point of view, thereby spreading your influence

3) It demonstrates intellectual flexibility

4) Practising arguing and reasoned debate lets you develop and strengthen those skills.

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No need to repeat yourself - I heard you the first time.

If by " play whack a mole with a gish galloping libtard " you mean, "address the points raised by someone else," then I can think of at least four reasons to do so:

1) It tests your own reasoning and might make you inspect your beliefs which could take you out of your thought-bubble

2) It could do the same for someone else and you could persuade them to your point of view, thereby spreading your influence

3) It demonstrates intellectual flexibility

4) Practising arguing and reasoned debate lets you develop and strengthen those skills.

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Guest: Libs never get it (50 days ago)

All very reasonable on the surface Bob, but if

1) the person has a deposition to accepting arguments from authority because they

2) lack the ability to understand the argument being put foward due to

3) deficiencies in key educational areas, ( maths and logic ) then

There is no point in trying a reasonable approach

Btw co-opting a popular trendy vewpoint without understanding the underlying logic is just cultural camouflage.

That's why I call them libtards, they're anything but Liberal in the classical sense

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All very reasonable on the surface Bob, but if

1) the person has a deposition to accepting arguments from authority because they

2) lack the ability to understand the argument being put foward due to

3) deficiencies in key educational areas, ( maths and logic ) then

There is no point in trying a reasonable approach

Btw co-opting a popular trendy vewpoint without understanding the underlying logic is just cultural camouflage.

That's why I call them libtards, they're anything but Liberal in the classical sense

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TheBob TheBob (50 days ago)

So what are you trying to achieve?

If there are faults in their logic, point them out.

If they have deficiencies in educational areas, educate them.

If they are co-opting a popular trendy vewpoint without understanding the underlying logic, call them on it.

However, nobody who is called a libtard is going to say, "Oh, I've just been called a libtard. I now see the error of my ways and I shall change my beliefs." They're just going to feel insulted, discount what you have to say and not change their opinions.

Are you trying to change their opinion or make them feel insulted?

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So what are you trying to achieve?

If there are faults in their logic, point them out.

If they have deficiencies in educational areas, educate them.

If they are co-opting a popular trendy vewpoint without understanding the underlying logic, call them on it.

However, nobody who is called a libtard is going to say, "Oh, I've just been called a libtard. I now see the error of my ways and I shall change my beliefs." They're just going to feel insulted, discount what you have to say and not change their opinions.

Are you trying to change their opinion or make them feel insulted?

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Guest: Libs never get it (49 days ago)

Bob , the point is that there is no point in getting them to consider another viewpoint.They already have their beliefs, and will just shout down an attempt to get them to understand another viewpoint.

A good example of this behaviour can be seen in the reaction to losing the brexit and presidential elections. They refuse to attempt to understand why they lost by stooping so low to ask an actual voter, they prefer to substitute their cod explanations. Groupthink personified, and you ain't breaking through that wall soon, all you can do is laugh at them.

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Bob , the point is that there is no point in getting them to consider another viewpoint.They already have their beliefs, and will just shout down an attempt to get them to understand another viewpoint.

A good example of this behaviour can be seen in the reaction to losing the brexit and presidential elections. They refuse to attempt to understand why they lost by stooping so low to ask an actual voter, they prefer to substitute their cod explanations. Groupthink personified, and you ain't breaking through that wall soon, all you can do is laugh at them.

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TheBob TheBob (49 days ago)

If " there is no point in getting them to consider another viewpoint ", then what are you trying to achieve?

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If " there is no point in getting them to consider another viewpoint ", then what are you trying to achieve?

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Guest: Captain Colloquism (49 days ago)

More generics, still not a single specific.

I ask you, yet again - what is MY viewpoint that you disagree with? What is MY reaction to losing Brexit? What are my beliefs that I already have? Seriously - quote me. You obviously hate 'cod explanations' so tell me where I've shared my views and explain to TheBob (not me) why they are wrong.

You dress it up like it's a debate, or it's about my views, when you literally don't have a clue what my views are. This is simply about you being able to back up YOUR views, and you seem to refuse to do so simply because of what you imagine I believe. It just makes no sense - it's seriously the weakest distraction and excuse making I've ever seen in an adult. Show TheBob how I'm wrong. Not 'libtards' in general, not GroupThink elitists, or any other trope you've been taught - but how ME, the person you are conversing with, has made a mistake. Come on.

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More generics, still not a single specific.

I ask you, yet again - what is MY viewpoint that you disagree with? What is MY reaction to losing Brexit? What are my beliefs that I already have? Seriously - quote me. You obviously hate 'cod explanations' so tell me where I've shared my views and explain to TheBob (not me) why they are wrong.

You dress it up like it's a debate, or it's about my views, when you literally don't have a clue what my views are. This is simply about you being able to back up YOUR views, and you seem to refuse to do so simply because of what you imagine I believe. It just makes no sense - it's seriously the weakest distraction and excuse making I've ever seen in an adult. Show TheBob how I'm wrong. Not 'libtards' in general, not GroupThink elitists, or any other trope you've been taught - but how ME, the person you are conversing with, has made a mistake. Come on.

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Guest: irv (49 days ago)

Oh it's just that when someone makes a comment that isn't on message, normally in a conversation with Walter, someone else turns up to attack him/her. Not related are you ?, But it does so remind me of castle anthrax.

Btw Janus categories this behaviour as mindguarding.

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Oh it's just that when someone makes a comment that isn't on message, normally in a conversation with Walter, someone else turns up to attack him/her. Not related are you ?, But it does so remind me of castle anthrax.

Btw Janus categories this behaviour as mindguarding.

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Guest: irv (49 days ago)

And yes I am fully aware that the intent is to try and shut me down. As I've pointed out a few times that even if I was to present perfectly good sources (and I have in the past ) you will simply find fault with it, so I prefer not to bother, knowing that this winds you up.I do however make sure that I leave clear key words so an interested person can quickly verify my claim, as I'm quite sure you are aware.

You're welcome

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And yes I am fully aware that the intent is to try and shut me down. As I've pointed out a few times that even if I was to present perfectly good sources (and I have in the past ) you will simply find fault with it, so I prefer not to bother, knowing that this winds you up.I do however make sure that I leave clear key words so an interested person can quickly verify my claim, as I'm quite sure you are aware.

You're welcome

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Guest: Captain Colloquism (49 days ago)

Still too general.

Which viewpoint of mine do you disagree with?

Show TheBob why it is wrong.

I understand you still claim the evidence for your beliefs is out there, but it seems like you haven't seen it yourself because you're unable, as usual, to provide specifics.

If your opinions are based on specific data (rather than the belief that specific data exists), provide TheBob with a link to the specific data you have seen.

Claiming that you don't back up your opinions because it winds me up is really scraping the barrel.

If you want to pretend that I won't believe the evidence, that's fine. Show it to TheBob instead. Or will he not believe it either?

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Still too general.

Which viewpoint of mine do you disagree with?

Show TheBob why it is wrong.

I understand you still claim the evidence for your beliefs is out there, but it seems like you haven't seen it yourself because you're unable, as usual, to provide specifics.

If your opinions are based on specific data (rather than the belief that specific data exists), provide TheBob with a link to the specific data you have seen.

Claiming that you don't back up your opinions because it winds me up is really scraping the barrel.

If you want to pretend that I won't believe the evidence, that's fine. Show it to TheBob instead. Or will he not believe it either?

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Guest: Captain Colloquism (48 days ago)

Well, TheBob, it looks like he can't quote a single viewpoint of mine, let alone explain to someone else that viewpoint is wrong. And yet despite him literally not being able to name a single opinion of mine, he says I'm an SJW. That's the language he's got.

Similarly, a comment with 2 simple questions to him is 'gish galloping'. Again, that isn't what the term means at all - but Breitbart have taught him this attack method, and it's easier to use that language than address what I'm saying.

Well well. It's hard to celebrate a victory which is little more than winning chess against a dog, but I think I have made it as clear to him and everyone else why he doesn't make any sense. He can't present an argument. I normally try to be kind, but this guys shows such obnoxious ignorance, I feel entitled to mock him.

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Well, TheBob, it looks like he can't quote a single viewpoint of mine, let alone explain to someone else that viewpoint is wrong. And yet despite him literally not being able to name a single opinion of mine, he says I'm an SJW. That's the language he's got.

Similarly, a comment with 2 simple questions to him is 'gish galloping'. Again, that isn't what the term means at all - but Breitbart have taught him this attack method, and it's easier to use that language than address what I'm saying.

Well well. It's hard to celebrate a victory which is little more than winning chess against a dog, but I think I have made it as clear to him and everyone else why he doesn't make any sense. He can't present an argument. I normally try to be kind, but this guys shows such obnoxious ignorance, I feel entitled to mock him.

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Guest: Irv (48 days ago)

Ta da

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Ta da

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TheBob TheBob (49 days ago)

Hi Irv.

You seem to have a "bee in your bonnet" about what we could call "the Boreme community" - i.e. the clips that are posted and people's posts about them. And yet rather than find a site that is more aligned to your own views, you continue to post here - and I am not saying you shouldn't contribute.

However, I keep asking the question because I'm genuinely curious about what you're aiming to achieve.

Are you trying to persuade people they are wrong and should come around to your point of view?

Are you testing your own opinions or questionning your assumptions?

Are you just trying to wind people up - or indeed something else entirely?

Like I say, I'm honestly curious - can you explain?

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Hi Irv.

You seem to have a "bee in your bonnet" about what we could call "the Boreme community" - i.e. the clips that are posted and people's posts about them. And yet rather than find a site that is more aligned to your own views, you continue to post here - and I am not saying you shouldn't contribute.

However, I keep asking the question because I'm genuinely curious about what you're aiming to achieve.

Are you trying to persuade people they are wrong and should come around to your point of view?

Are you testing your own opinions or questionning your assumptions?

Are you just trying to wind people up - or indeed something else entirely?

Like I say, I'm honestly curious - can you explain?

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Guest: Irv (49 days ago)

Sjws or Rwnjs ? That is the question. Sjws are are my idiot of choice.

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Sjws or Rwnjs ? That is the question. Sjws are are my idiot of choice.

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Guest: conservatards are go (49 days ago)

bob do you see? the guy cant follow his own argument let alone yours. ask him as many questions as you like he wont answer he doesnt know.. you chipping in doesnt change any thing. he isnt a ordinary poster here. he keeps posting because he feels threatened and knows he hasnt proven his point but cant back down.

cheesebrain has been brain washed to argue against one type of person and one type only. if you argue with him or embarass him he decides you gotta be that type of person otherwise he is defenceless. that person is a liberal voter, a clinton supporter, a remain voter, an sjw, someone who beleives in manmade climate change, a reader of the left wing press, someone who doesnt fact check, someone who reads alinsky (wtf), someone who beleives mass opinion, someone who cant understand his impossibly clever arguments, someone who is part of a big nasty conspiracy/sex party against him. now it doesnt matter what you actually beleive or how you vote or what your ability is he just has to assume that you are that type of person because he doesnt know any comebacks against any one else. its so basic its not even straw man. captain collo that is why he doesnt give specifics. he didnt put you in that pidgeon hole because of what you said he put you in because thats all he knows how to fight.

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bob do you see? the guy cant follow his own argument let alone yours. ask him as many questions as you like he wont answer he doesnt know.. you chipping in doesnt change any thing. he isnt a ordinary poster here. he keeps posting because he feels threatened and knows he hasnt proven his point but cant back down.

cheesebrain has been brain washed to argue against one type of person and one type only. if you argue with him or embarass him he decides you gotta be that type of person otherwise he is defenceless. that person is a liberal voter, a clinton supporter, a remain voter, an sjw, someone who beleives in manmade climate change, a reader of the left wing press, someone who doesnt fact check, someone who reads alinsky (wtf), someone who beleives mass opinion, someone who cant understand his impossibly clever arguments, someone who is part of a big nasty conspiracy/sex party against him. now it doesnt matter what you actually beleive or how you vote or what your ability is he just has to assume that you are that type of person because he doesnt know any comebacks against any one else. its so basic its not even straw man. captain collo that is why he doesnt give specifics. he didnt put you in that pidgeon hole because of what you said he put you in because thats all he knows how to fight.

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TheBob TheBob (49 days ago)

So what are you aiming to achieve with sjws?

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So what are you aiming to achieve with sjws?

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Guest: Irv (48 days ago)

Get them to waste time writing long gish galloping essays in an attempt to rationalise their absolute refusal to accept well established facts.

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Get them to waste time writing long gish galloping essays in an attempt to rationalise their absolute refusal to accept well established facts.

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TheBob TheBob (48 days ago)

That seems an odd way to want to spend your life - are you getting paid for it?

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That seems an odd way to want to spend your life - are you getting paid for it?

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Guest: Irv (48 days ago)

Wheeling out the libtard defense strategy there Bob. I thought that all died down with the rise to Soras and his Billions funding all the left wing loony causes that coincide with his investment strategy.

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Wheeling out the libtard defense strategy there Bob. I thought that all died down with the rise to Soras and his Billions funding all the left wing loony causes that coincide with his investment strategy.

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TheBob TheBob (48 days ago)

I'm defending nothing. I just commented that to me it seems an odd way to spend time - making others waste their own time.

And I'm still wondering what motivates you to do it. So, what do you get out of it when you make someone else waste their time?

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I'm defending nothing. I just commented that to me it seems an odd way to spend time - making others waste their own time.

And I'm still wondering what motivates you to do it. So, what do you get out of it when you make someone else waste their time?

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Guest: Captain Colloquism (48 days ago)

Come on TheBob; you're being disingenuous if you're pretending that's really his reason for being here. After-all, trying to waste someone's time by wasting your own doesn't make a whole lot of sense, not even by his standards.

If you've been reading his comments, you will have picked up that he is very confident of his opinions, but not enough to explain them. When these opinions are challenged or probed, he has two options -either explain them (as you suggested) in a mature way, and convince us with the same evidence that convinced him - or just try to insult us to compensate for his galling loss of pride.

He is clearly unable to explain his views, firstly because he isn't particularly 'academic' (!), and secondly his opinions are inherited and absorbed rather than reasoned, (not an insult - this is an observation based on him failing to reference any original information and using a very distinct glossary lifted from the Conservative press.) All he is left with is this amusing array of hopelessly generic insults, and the more you expose the hypocrisies in his thinking, or the futility and irrationality of his behaviour, the more vague and obnoxious he becomes. But then again, an SJW liberal elitist leave-voting Clinton-supporting libtard like myself is bound to say that.

I'm a little surprised you didn't see this coming. My advice is if you're expecting anything more enlightening than the odd giggle at his attempts to hide his mistakes and sound clever, you're on the wrong thread.

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Come on TheBob; you're being disingenuous if you're pretending that's really his reason for being here. After-all, trying to waste someone's time by wasting your own doesn't make a whole lot of sense, not even by his standards.

If you've been reading his comments, you will have picked up that he is very confident of his opinions, but not enough to explain them. When these opinions are challenged or probed, he has two options -either explain them (as you suggested) in a mature way, and convince us with the same evidence that convinced him - or just try to insult us to compensate for his galling loss of pride.

He is clearly unable to explain his views, firstly because he isn't particularly 'academic' (!), and secondly his opinions are inherited and absorbed rather than reasoned, (not an insult - this is an observation based on him failing to reference any original information and using a very distinct glossary lifted from the Conservative press.) All he is left with is this amusing array of hopelessly generic insults, and the more you expose the hypocrisies in his thinking, or the futility and irrationality of his behaviour, the more vague and obnoxious he becomes. But then again, an SJW liberal elitist leave-voting Clinton-supporting libtard like myself is bound to say that.

I'm a little surprised you didn't see this coming. My advice is if you're expecting anything more enlightening than the odd giggle at his attempts to hide his mistakes and sound clever, you're on the wrong thread.

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Guest: Irv (48 days ago)

What motivates you Bob ?.Are you being paid to hang around boreme year after year ?.

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What motivates you Bob ?.Are you being paid to hang around boreme year after year ?.

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TheBob TheBob (48 days ago)

OK, I'm done here. It seems pretty obvious now you're not up to answering questions though it was good to see you posting with a reduced level of insults.

Have a good weekend, folks

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OK, I'm done here. It seems pretty obvious now you're not up to answering questions though it was good to see you posting with a reduced level of insults.

Have a good weekend, folks

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Guest: Irv (47 days ago)

What you really mean is I turned the tables on you and your couldn't come up with a valid response. Btw I only insult those that merit such a response. Have a nice day Bob

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What you really mean is I turned the tables on you and your couldn't come up with a valid response. Btw I only insult those that merit such a response. Have a nice day Bob

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TheBob TheBob (47 days ago)

No, that's you projecting.

I'd be happy to say what motivates me if I thought you would engage honestly. However, I've asked it and had no answer enough times now that I think your intent (as you've previously stated) is to waste some more of my time.

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No, that's you projecting.

I'd be happy to say what motivates me if I thought you would engage honestly. However, I've asked it and had no answer enough times now that I think your intent (as you've previously stated) is to waste some more of my time.

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Guest: Irv (47 days ago)

What you really mean is you will only accept an answer that is acceptable to you, according to your madeup by yourself rules.

Pardon me if I blow off in your general direction

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What you really mean is you will only accept an answer that is acceptable to you, according to your madeup by yourself rules.

Pardon me if I blow off in your general direction

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Guest: Captain Colloquism (47 days ago)

He isn't trying to waste time, Bob, though of course he likes the attention. He is genuinely trying to sound clever. He's very low ability, but I'm pretty sure he knows he is tripping himself up. I mean even he must realise he doesn't understand his or our views enough to explain them or back them up. It's kind of endearing.

I guess you wanted to see whether the reason he wasn't following the argument was because we bully and mock him. Well, you have seen that even when you don't mock him, he is unable to engage as an adult or back up his views. If you were familiar with his other sock puppets of Asterix etc, you would have known that. Credit to you for trying, but some people can't be fixed.

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He isn't trying to waste time, Bob, though of course he likes the attention. He is genuinely trying to sound clever. He's very low ability, but I'm pretty sure he knows he is tripping himself up. I mean even he must realise he doesn't understand his or our views enough to explain them or back them up. It's kind of endearing.

I guess you wanted to see whether the reason he wasn't following the argument was because we bully and mock him. Well, you have seen that even when you don't mock him, he is unable to engage as an adult or back up his views. If you were familiar with his other sock puppets of Asterix etc, you would have known that. Credit to you for trying, but some people can't be fixed.

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Guest: (47 days ago)

Hahaha! Bless your simple insecure little mind. Yet another person has humiliated you and all you've got is insults. You know you've lost, we know you've lost. That's enough.

When you're ready to answer a single question about your views, or when you're ready to read what people are writing rather than spewing out the insults Breitbart has brainwashed you with, then get in touch with us. You can have another go at being at adult.

Thanks for the giggles.

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Hahaha! Bless your simple insecure little mind. Yet another person has humiliated you and all you've got is insults. You know you've lost, we know you've lost. That's enough.

When you're ready to answer a single question about your views, or when you're ready to read what people are writing rather than spewing out the insults Breitbart has brainwashed you with, then get in touch with us. You can have another go at being at adult.

Thanks for the giggles.

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Guest: Irv (47 days ago)

Pigeon chess

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Pigeon chess

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Guest: Captain Colloquism (47 days ago)

That is the exact term! Spot on!

Please, please, reflect on what that means: Do you think your tactic of refusing to answer questions and resorting to very general abuse is more like the proverbial chess player, or the moronic pigeon crapping on the board and flying into the window? Hmmm. I wonder. Don't worry - I know you can't answer. Just think about it for 10 seconds. If you had a penny, it would drop.

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That is the exact term! Spot on!

Please, please, reflect on what that means: Do you think your tactic of refusing to answer questions and resorting to very general abuse is more like the proverbial chess player, or the moronic pigeon crapping on the board and flying into the window? Hmmm. I wonder. Don't worry - I know you can't answer. Just think about it for 10 seconds. If you had a penny, it would drop.

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Guest: irv (46 days ago)

Ah pigeon chess supreme

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Ah pigeon chess supreme

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Guest: (46 days ago)

Ha ha! The penny has dropped! Well done, it took you long enough.

I'll leave you alone now. Sorry, I wasn't trying to be mean but you do walk into these things.

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Ha ha! The penny has dropped! Well done, it took you long enough.

I'll leave you alone now. Sorry, I wasn't trying to be mean but you do walk into these things.

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Guest: irv (46 days ago)

More pigeon chess from the libtards

Mind you doesn't alter the fact that everything they advocate is being ignored.

Never mind eh, pigeon chess will cover up the scars

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More pigeon chess from the libtards

Mind you doesn't alter the fact that everything they advocate is being ignored.

Never mind eh, pigeon chess will cover up the scars

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Guest: Captain Colloquism (46 days ago)
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As I said, yes, definitely pigeon chess! Whether it's me, Bob, or even a guest who can barely use English grammar... it seems we all become Gary Kasparov when faced with the hilarious flustered dimwit of MAD, refusing to answer simple questions, failing to name what he's arguing against, and parroting phrases he thinks sound smart.

You're clearly feeling a little sore. Well for the record, no one has actively tried to humilate you - you've done that to yourself, as you did on every other thread. I advise you (as Bob did) to hang around the Breitbart forums more - that's more your level and you won't be expected to debate things, play chess, or appear any more educated than your sorry history allows. You may find your 'deposition' in life after all, you utter genius! ;)

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As I said, yes, definitely pigeon chess! Whether it's me, Bob, or even a guest who can barely use English grammar... it seems we all become Gary Kasparov when faced with the hilarious flustered dimwit of MAD, refusing to answer simple questions, failing to name what he's arguing against, and parroting phrases he thinks sound smart.

You're clearly feeling a little sore. Well for the record, no one has actively tried to humilate you - you've done that to yourself, as you did on every other thread. I advise you (as Bob did) to hang around the Breitbart forums more - that's more your level and you won't be expected to debate things, play chess, or appear any more educated than your sorry history allows. You may find your 'deposition' in life after all, you utter genius! ;)

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Guest: (48 days ago)

He can't do questions.

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He can't do questions.

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Guest: Captain Colloquism (50 days ago)

Again, plenty of generic insults without any specific reference to what has actually been said, on this thread or any other.

My logic is simple. If someone makes a claim that they say is based on specific evidence, I like to see that evidence to make up my own mind. Maybe it's cynicism, maybe it's fact-checking, maybe it's plain old curiosity.

I also believe that if someone makes a claim, it is up to them and only them to back it up with the most persuasive evidence they can muster. If they provide evidence that is then disputed, that's another matter, but if they refuse to provide any specific evidence whatsoever (and moreover become increasingly abusive when asked for it), then it's a non-starter.

Funnily enough, if you go back to the first thread, my first comment to you was 'sources please'. It wasn't a refutation of your views, an insult, or even a disagreement. It was just an appeal to see the exact data from which you claim to have drawn your conclusion. I have never once shared my views on climate change - so how can you say I am 'co-opting a trendy viewpoint'? I asked very simply... "if you disagree with my views on climate change (and you seem to believe you do), quote me where I have shared them and tell me exactly where you disagree". Meanwhile, you claim I lack the ability to understand your argument, but when I have expressly asked for these clarifications, (even giving you multiple choice questions about your views when you have said directly contradictory things), you refuse to answer, pulling increasingly absurd excuses out of the bag.

It seems to me as though I am one of many users here who have picked you up on your little hypocrisies or probed your views a little deeper than is comfortable, and that alone has brought forth your raft of generic insults and second-hand assumptions about my views on climate change, politics, etc. etc. I think we all know that you're not a graduate of any sort (honestly, I'm not sure you have the 'deposition' (sic) for academia!), so I doubt there's much in the way of maths or logic that you could teach me. However, if I'm wrong - if I have made statements that are unmathematical or illogical, then give us specific examples - use my exact words to highlight my ignorance - and show TheBob why you are correct. I suppose you're hiding all your logical explanations and persuasive evidence from me because I won't believe it even if I see it - but give TheBob a try. Show him. I'll just be quietly looking over his shoulder in interest.

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Again, plenty of generic insults without any specific reference to what has actually been said, on this thread or any other.

My logic is simple. If someone makes a claim that they say is based on specific evidence, I like to see that evidence to make up my own mind. Maybe it's cynicism, maybe it's fact-checking, maybe it's plain old curiosity.

I also believe that if someone makes a claim, it is up to them and only them to back it up with the most persuasive evidence they can muster. If they provide evidence that is then disputed, that's another matter, but if they refuse to provide any specific evidence whatsoever (and moreover become increasingly abusive when asked for it), then it's a non-starter.

Funnily enough, if you go back to the first thread, my first comment to you was 'sources please'. It wasn't a refutation of your views, an insult, or even a disagreement. It was just an appeal to see the exact data from which you claim to have drawn your conclusion. I have never once shared my views on climate change - so how can you say I am 'co-opting a trendy viewpoint'? I asked very simply... "if you disagree with my views on climate change (and you seem to believe you do), quote me where I have shared them and tell me exactly where you disagree". Meanwhile, you claim I lack the ability to understand your argument, but when I have expressly asked for these clarifications, (even giving you multiple choice questions about your views when you have said directly contradictory things), you refuse to answer, pulling increasingly absurd excuses out of the bag.

It seems to me as though I am one of many users here who have picked you up on your little hypocrisies or probed your views a little deeper than is comfortable, and that alone has brought forth your raft of generic insults and second-hand assumptions about my views on climate change, politics, etc. etc. I think we all know that you're not a graduate of any sort (honestly, I'm not sure you have the 'deposition' (sic) for academia!), so I doubt there's much in the way of maths or logic that you could teach me. However, if I'm wrong - if I have made statements that are unmathematical or illogical, then give us specific examples - use my exact words to highlight my ignorance - and show TheBob why you are correct. I suppose you're hiding all your logical explanations and persuasive evidence from me because I won't believe it even if I see it - but give TheBob a try. Show him. I'll just be quietly looking over his shoulder in interest.

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Guest: Libs never get it (50 days ago)

Thanks for your input Bob,I knew I would flush you out eventually.

But do tell me why I should play whack a mole with a gish galloping libtard ?

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Thanks for your input Bob,I knew I would flush you out eventually.

But do tell me why I should play whack a mole with a gish galloping libtard ?

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Guest: Captain Colloquism (50 days ago)

Of course you have. Rather than inventing a Walter Mitty life for yourself, you should try to increase your reading level if 3 paragraphs is a stretch for you.

Anyway, As I said, "So instead of challenging me on this, refuting my points above using examples, why don't you come out with some generalised insults that could be applied to anything. "

Q.E.D

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Of course you have. Rather than inventing a Walter Mitty life for yourself, you should try to increase your reading level if 3 paragraphs is a stretch for you.

Anyway, As I said, "So instead of challenging me on this, refuting my points above using examples, why don't you come out with some generalised insults that could be applied to anything. "

Q.E.D

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Guest: Libs never get it (50 days ago)

Don't flatter yourself that your gish galloping projections are worth refuting point by point.

I do so enjoy provoking libturds, they always have such an inflated view of their intellectual capabilities, they already have all the answers they need, and lack the curiousity and ability to test them against reality.

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Don't flatter yourself that your gish galloping projections are worth refuting point by point.

I do so enjoy provoking libturds, they always have such an inflated view of their intellectual capabilities, they already have all the answers they need, and lack the curiousity and ability to test them against reality.

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Guest: (52 days ago)

HA AHAAAAAAAAAAAAAA not sexual!! yes the original mad has his little conservatard partys where they sit in a circle drop there jeans and beat off there neighbor to the rhythm of club tropicana by wham. but its NOT SEXUAL all right? nothing sexual about a circle jerk remember!!! they told him its just being freindly !!

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HA AHAAAAAAAAAAAAAA not sexual!! yes the original mad has his little conservatard partys where they sit in a circle drop there jeans and beat off there neighbor to the rhythm of club tropicana by wham. but its NOT SEXUAL all right? nothing sexual about a circle jerk remember!!! they told him its just being freindly !!

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Guest: (51 days ago)

Te he! I think he is the type to be exploited...

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Te he! I think he is the type to be exploited...

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Guest: Libs......Oh dear (51 days ago)

Calling someone a dickhead could be construed as "sexual", although most people will simply reconise it as simply meaning someone's an arsehole. Just saying.

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Calling someone a dickhead could be construed as "sexual", although most people will simply reconise it as simply meaning someone's an arsehole. Just saying.

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