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Will writers, artists and musicians be automated?

Will writers, artists and musicians be automated?

(6:22) Can artificial intelligence be creative? Big Think 2017.

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Guest: Howboutthat (151 days ago)
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How would we functionally define a human to an alien culture? How about “It’s an entity which converts resources from the environment into waste, while growing, planning, generating necessary or amusing products and social structures, providing necessary or amusing services to other people, attempting to control, outcompete or harm other humans, reflecting on itself and its world and generating more humans.” Artificial entities now provide- or soon will provide- all these except the last two but many humans don’t either. Perhaps it is time to expand the definition of human (as in “corporations&rdquo ;) and rather than worry that machines are replacing humans, decide that humanity- in a hybrid protein / electronic form- has acquired vastly enhanced abilities to survive, experience, build or destroy, and think. (Acknowledged in advance: replies about borg, daleks, and religious purpose)

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How would we functionally define a human to an alien culture? How about “It’s an entity which converts resources from the environment into waste, while growing, planning, generating necessary or amusing products and social structures, providing necessary or amusing services to other people, attempting to control, outcompete or harm other humans, reflecting on itself and its world and generating more humans.” Artificial entities now provide- or soon will provide- all these except the last two but many humans don’t either. Perhaps it is time to expand the definition of human (as in “corporations&rdquo ;) and rather than worry that machines are replacing humans, decide that humanity- in a hybrid protein / electronic form- has acquired vastly enhanced abilities to survive, experience, build or destroy, and think. (Acknowledged in advance: replies about borg, daleks, and religious purpose)

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Haven't watched the video yet, but in answer to the question, some stuff that people produce seems very formulaic already, so I don't see any problem with using AI to produce work of human quality. But AI can't answer the first questions that I always have when I see/read/hear a work of art: *why* did the artist produce this? What was their motivation? For AI-produced art, the answers will be (1) because someone switched it on, and (2) there is no motivation.

Among my favourites is Mondrian's grid-based paintings which he started in the 1920s. A measure of how influential they are is that the designs have been used in countless other places: architecture, fabrics and fashion, interior design, etc. They are simple, but not too simple (pace Einstein). But I can't imagine an AI system creating that out of nothing.

Part of the reason is that human invention is often just good luck. You mess about and play and suddenly something falls into place and you can see that it might have value. Can we develop AI to do that? Is there another way to invent things?

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Haven't watched the video yet, but in answer to the question, some stuff that people produce seems very formulaic already, so I don't see any problem with using AI to produce work of human quality. But AI can't answer the first questions that I always have when I see/read/hear a work of art: *why* did the artist produce this? What was their motivation? For AI-produced art, the answers will be (1) because someone switched it on, and (2) there is no motivation.

Among my favourites is Mondrian's grid-based paintings which he started in the 1920s. A measure of how influential they are is that the designs have been used in countless other places: architecture, fabrics and fashion, interior design, etc. They are simple, but not too simple (pace Einstein). But I can't imagine an AI system creating that out of nothing.

Part of the reason is that human invention is often just good luck. You mess about and play and suddenly something falls into place and you can see that it might have value. Can we develop AI to do that? Is there another way to invent things?

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