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Richard Dawkins - Not all opinions are equal

Richard Dawkins - Not all opinions are equal

(5:33) You want an expert pilot to fly the plane, an expert surgeon to cut you open, so you should want experts to lead the nation. Big Think 2017. youtube.com/user/bigthink

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Guest: (171 days ago)

Urggh, such a smug twit. His expertise argument is a very clumsy rehash of Plato's 'Ship of State' theory, a very old, unoriginal, and invalid analogy. Boiling down the pro-Brexit argument to simple ignorance is hugely patronising and doesn't take on board the vast numbers of highly educated and knowledgeable Brexiteers. It's not as if the majority of MPs are necessarily more expert at making that decision than the rest of us, particularly when cabinet roles are often dished out without acknowledgement of experience.

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Urggh, such a smug twit. His expertise argument is a very clumsy rehash of Plato's 'Ship of State' theory, a very old, unoriginal, and invalid analogy. Boiling down the pro-Brexit argument to simple ignorance is hugely patronising and doesn't take on board the vast numbers of highly educated and knowledgeable Brexiteers. It's not as if the majority of MPs are necessarily more expert at making that decision than the rest of us, particularly when cabinet roles are often dished out without acknowledgement of experience.

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WalterEgo WalterEgo (171 days ago)

Maybe Churchill put it better: "The best argument against democracy is a five-minute conversation with the average voter."

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Maybe Churchill put it better: "The best argument against democracy is a five-minute conversation with the average voter."

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Of course sheltered public school snobs want to disempower the common man. Means more power to them. Churchill and Dawkins are peas in an aristocratic pod. At least Churchill said that true democracy is the best we have, the only use Dawkins has for less educated commoners is a market for his books.

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Of course sheltered public school snobs want to disempower the common man. Means more power to them. Churchill and Dawkins are peas in an aristocratic pod. At least Churchill said that true democracy is the best we have, the only use Dawkins has for less educated commoners is a market for his books.

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WalterEgo WalterEgo (169 days ago)

Talk about attacking the messenger and ignoring the message. Dawkins is highly educated and knowledgeable but says even he is not equipped to vote on Brexit. His expertise is not in the EU, trade deals, law and politics. Would you want a highly educated and knowledgeable historian to perform surgery on you?

As the world gets more and more complicated, this is a huge and growing problem - how do non-experts evaluate very complicated subjects. Do we just have to trust experts?

Maybe we should vote on goals rather than policy, and get AI to propose policies to meet those goals. For example, a goal might be to control immigration to a sustainable level. AI might suggest we just implement current EU rules that other EU countries have implemented - if you haven't got a job or can't financially support yourself after 3 months, you can't stay. Or maybe invest some of the taxes that immigrants pay into education and health to serve the growing population as a whole. Most likely, AI will propose solutions that nobody has even thought of before.

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Talk about attacking the messenger and ignoring the message. Dawkins is highly educated and knowledgeable but says even he is not equipped to vote on Brexit. His expertise is not in the EU, trade deals, law and politics. Would you want a highly educated and knowledgeable historian to perform surgery on you?

As the world gets more and more complicated, this is a huge and growing problem - how do non-experts evaluate very complicated subjects. Do we just have to trust experts?

Maybe we should vote on goals rather than policy, and get AI to propose policies to meet those goals. For example, a goal might be to control immigration to a sustainable level. AI might suggest we just implement current EU rules that other EU countries have implemented - if you haven't got a job or can't financially support yourself after 3 months, you can't stay. Or maybe invest some of the taxes that immigrants pay into education and health to serve the growing population as a whole. Most likely, AI will propose solutions that nobody has even thought of before.

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Dawkins message is elitism and its unoriginal. People are fed up of aristocratic snobs deciding who is and isnt qualified to make decisions. Oh yes he is being all humble and saying it includes him, I see through it. He knows he wins in this arrangment. His kind of attitude is why people voted for Brexit and why people voted for Trump. Surgery is not the same because as someone said there is no way to tell who is qualified... in this case the "experts" (all public school educated I'm sure) didn't agree and they all told us different things to suit their agenda, what a surprise. Cameron ordered the referendum because he realised people felt disempowered. It backfired but people are engaged. Dawkins can't bear it, his gullible readers now get to vote on things that affect his life instead of just filling his pockets

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Dawkins message is elitism and its unoriginal. People are fed up of aristocratic snobs deciding who is and isnt qualified to make decisions. Oh yes he is being all humble and saying it includes him, I see through it. He knows he wins in this arrangment. His kind of attitude is why people voted for Brexit and why people voted for Trump. Surgery is not the same because as someone said there is no way to tell who is qualified... in this case the "experts" (all public school educated I'm sure) didn't agree and they all told us different things to suit their agenda, what a surprise. Cameron ordered the referendum because he realised people felt disempowered. It backfired but people are engaged. Dawkins can't bear it, his gullible readers now get to vote on things that affect his life instead of just filling his pockets

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Guest: (173 days ago)

Can we have elite economist, sociologist, politicians?

We can measure the performance of surgeon, pilot, basketball player, but can we measure performance of economist. Mainstream economist didn't know about Great Recession, until it happened.

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Can we have elite economist, sociologist, politicians?

We can measure the performance of surgeon, pilot, basketball player, but can we measure performance of economist. Mainstream economist didn't know about Great Recession, until it happened.

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