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Guest: John C (34 days ago)

Another sheep buying off on the climate change myth. When I was growing up the science community was warning of the coming ice age, then it move to global warming, but the warming couldn't be quanified so now it is climate change. Every major storm is now a direct result of "climate change", even though some of the most powerful storms occurred early in the 19th century. People need to start thinking for themselves, or you may end up following all the other ship off the side of a cliff.

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Another sheep buying off on the climate change myth. When I was growing up the science community was warning of the coming ice age, then it move to global warming, but the warming couldn't be quanified so now it is climate change. Every major storm is now a direct result of "climate change", even though some of the most powerful storms occurred early in the 19th century. People need to start thinking for themselves, or you may end up following all the other ship off the side of a cliff.

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Guest: (34 days ago)

What would have to happen in order to convince you climate change is real?

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What would have to happen in order to convince you climate change is real?

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WalterEgo WalterEgo (33 days ago)

When you were growing up, scientists were unsure if the pollution that we were creating would block enough sun to lead to an ice age, or if our greenhouse gas emissions would trap enough heat to lead to a warming climate. Now we know.

The reason why "global warming" became "climate change" is because "global warming" is a confusing term. As the planet warms, the weather becomes more extreme at both ends of the scale. Have you not noticed how often temperature records are broken these days? By far, most are at the warm end - the 16 warmest years since records began (1880) were all this century. And 2017 looks like it will join that list. Yet snow fell in Kuwait for the first time since the last ice age in 2016.

" Every major storm is now a direct result of "climate change", even though some of the most powerful storms occurred early in the 19th century. " Not quite. Climate change makes every major storm a bit more extreme because there is more energy (heat) in the oceans and atmosphere. So if the oceans and atmosphere were cooler, a category 5 storm might be a 4.

There were certainly powerful storms in the early 19th century but the most powerful storms are much more recent. The most powerful in the Atlantic was Irma, 2017. Eastern Pacific was Particia, 2015. Western North Pacific - Tip, 1979. North Indian Ocean - Odisha, 1999. South West Indian Ocean - Fantala, 2015. Australia - Monica, 2005. South Pacific - Winston, 2016. South Atlantic - Caterina, 2004. LINK

About following sheep off the side of a cliff - what cliff are you thinking of? A green revolution that leads to a world running on cheap, clean, renewable energy doesn't look like a cliff to me. It looks far more appealing than what we have today - wars over oil, fracking causing earthquakes and polluting the water table, people dying early due to diesel pollution, big oil buying governments ... and I haven't even got to the weather yet.

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When you were growing up, scientists were unsure if the pollution that we were creating would block enough sun to lead to an ice age, or if our greenhouse gas emissions would trap enough heat to lead to a warming climate. Now we know.

The reason why "global warming" became "climate change" is because "global warming" is a confusing term. As the planet warms, the weather becomes more extreme at both ends of the scale. Have you not noticed how often temperature records are broken these days? By far, most are at the warm end - the 16 warmest years since records began (1880) were all this century. And 2017 looks like it will join that list. Yet snow fell in Kuwait for the first time since the last ice age in 2016.

" Every major storm is now a direct result of "climate change", even though some of the most powerful storms occurred early in the 19th century. " Not quite. Climate change makes every major storm a bit more extreme because there is more energy (heat) in the oceans and atmosphere. So if the oceans and atmosphere were cooler, a category 5 storm might be a 4.

There were certainly powerful storms in the early 19th century but the most powerful storms are much more recent. The most powerful in the Atlantic was Irma, 2017. Eastern Pacific was Particia, 2015. Western North Pacific - Tip, 1979. North Indian Ocean - Odisha, 1999. South West Indian Ocean - Fantala, 2015. Australia - Monica, 2005. South Pacific - Winston, 2016. South Atlantic - Caterina, 2004. LINK

About following sheep off the side of a cliff - what cliff are you thinking of? A green revolution that leads to a world running on cheap, clean, renewable energy doesn't look like a cliff to me. It looks far more appealing than what we have today - wars over oil, fracking causing earthquakes and polluting the water table, people dying early due to diesel pollution, big oil buying governments ... and I haven't even got to the weather yet.

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Guest: (33 days ago)

I hate to rain on your parade but when you list the most powerful storms you do understand that the records only cover the last century or sometimes less than 50 years. Why cant some people use statistics?

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I hate to rain on your parade but when you list the most powerful storms you do understand that the records only cover the last century or sometimes less than 50 years. Why cant some people use statistics?

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WalterEgo WalterEgo (32 days ago)

Where did you get your stats from? Napoleon's satellite program?

Hurricanes get their energy from the heat in the ocean. A warmer ocean will produce more powerful storms. It's not that difficult to understand.

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Where did you get your stats from? Napoleon's satellite program?

Hurricanes get their energy from the heat in the ocean. A warmer ocean will produce more powerful storms. It's not that difficult to understand.

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Guest: (31 days ago)

Napoleon didn't have a satellite program which is why saying all the most powerful storms are recent is a really dumb thing to say, you literally have no idea. There have been periods where the sea temperature tens of thousands of years ago was warmer than now and obviously there are more factors involved than the sea temperature.

Learn to use statistics properly because otherwise it gives deniers ammunition. I'm not denying AGW but saying all the most powerful storms coincide with human records is just f**king dumb. It's not that difficult to understand.

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Napoleon didn't have a satellite program which is why saying all the most powerful storms are recent is a really dumb thing to say, you literally have no idea. There have been periods where the sea temperature tens of thousands of years ago was warmer than now and obviously there are more factors involved than the sea temperature.

Learn to use statistics properly because otherwise it gives deniers ammunition. I'm not denying AGW but saying all the most powerful storms coincide with human records is just f**king dumb. It's not that difficult to understand.

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Guest: (31 days ago)
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Btw I know that AGW is pushing up average global temperatures but there are still spikes and cycles plus other factors affecting storms so assuming all the most powerful storms are the ones we have recorded... nah. Back to school.

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Btw I know that AGW is pushing up average global temperatures but there are still spikes and cycles plus other factors affecting storms so assuming all the most powerful storms are the ones we have recorded... nah. Back to school.

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