The urgent speech Trump never gave
Comment: 6 days ago
“since 1880 when direct recording of temperatures around the world began. “ Not valid answer. “The British East India Company, which traveled extensively between 1789 and 1834, collected an enormous amount of weather data. Philip Brohan, a climate scientist at the UK’s Met Office, has worked to collate hundreds of thousands of those records and digitize them to be added to the pre-1880 global climate record.” Wish to try again?
“Yes, very likely - in a few million years when the planets and sun all line up to produce those conditions” Come on Walter, you can do better than that. Are you saying then that the sun/planet alignments have anything to do with our climate? Enough that when our planet was at 25C for the vast majority of the history, that was because of the sun and planet alignment?
“Do you see any reason why the climate wouldn't change?” Yes I do see reasons. The planet climate has been changing for billions of years. It seemed normal to be at 25C and then an asteroid hits the planet and then cools it for a very long time and then eventually goes back to the previous 25C temperatures again. I think it’s funny how you don’t think 25C is the normal temperature for planet Earth.
“But your argument now seems to be: we are warming the planet, just much faster than natural processes” No, that seems to be your argument. I have never said that humans are the cause and that it is happening faster than the natural process. I’ve stated it is possible but I want proof first. Scientists saying it’s true does not make it true. Like preachers saying god exists doesn’t make it true. I’m not a person of faith so you need to show me the proof.
“so we just need to adapt. " Yes, that’s right. Your snowflake body cannot handle going back 1000 years before indoor plumbing and air conditioning. We have adapted the opposite way and began relying on technology to make our lives as comfortable as possible. But those people that will be able to go outside and survive 25C average temperatures, they will survive. Sorry that you will not be amongst us. I’m liking that “snowflake” word now since I’ve seen other users using it and the snowflake city. Think I’ll have to use it more often.
“You might be positive but you're wrong.” You don’t agree that the planet is warming toward the 25C point? I’m shocked. I thought even scientists thought that was the trend we were headed toward. Where do you think we are going then?
“cycles you are talking about are caused by changes in the Earth's orbit around the sun because of gravity. These changes are predictable, constant and really really really really really slow.” No, that’s not what I’m talking about at all. Do you agree that we are still in an ice age? Let’s establish that first. Simple question should have a simple answer.
“What happens when they go under water?” Then that facility isn’t going to be used. Which nuclear facility do you think is going to go under water over night due to the sea level rise (and not due to something else like an earthquake)?
“What happens to the population of Miami?” They can leave now if they want. Nothing is holding them back. People who are buying property there should have their head examined though.
“Internal refugees will be as much of a problem as external refugees” Not really. The USA has a bunch of unused land in the middle. Also, according to you, most of the population is going to die so that leaves more land for the survivors.
“It's Cary, not Carey." Next time you see him, apologize for me. But I’ve never seen him spell his name — just spelled by other users on this site. I have no idea how it’s spelled. I'm not sure if you're correct about the spelling or not either. All I remember is something about his ID being cengland. That was a few years ago and you guys are still talking about him. Either way, he doesn't apper to be on this site now so I doubt he really cares if I misspelled his name.