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Where Danish school children play with knives

(10:39) Kids go wild in Danish forest kindergartens.

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COncernedCitizen COncernedCitizen (859 days ago)

The problem with this becoming standard in the USA, the schools are responsible for our kids during the school hours. If one of them gets hurt, the school is responsible and is setting themselves up for a day in court.

If students go on a field trip, the parents are required to give their permission by filling out and signing a form. That form can be declined, but if approved, holds the school harmless if the child is hurt during the field trip. Most parents sign them because they are well supervised with many parent volunteers going too. But the kids do not climb trees or any other dangerous activities while on field trips. It is mainly to museums or other educational venues.

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The problem with this becoming standard in the USA, the schools are responsible for our kids during the school hours. If one of them gets hurt, the school is responsible and is setting themselves up for a day in court.

If students go on a field trip, the parents are required to give their permission by filling out and signing a form. That form can be declined, but if approved, holds the school harmless if the child is hurt during the field trip. Most parents sign them because they are well supervised with many parent volunteers going too. But the kids do not climb trees or any other dangerous activities while on field trips. It is mainly to museums or other educational venues.

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WalterEgo WalterEgo (859 days ago)

Isn't the point of government to change things so that they work better? If something works well in Denmark, why not try it in the US? Maybe change the laws so they don't discourage forest kindergartens.

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Isn't the point of government to change things so that they work better? If something works well in Denmark, why not try it in the US? Maybe change the laws so they don't discourage forest kindergartens.

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COncernedCitizen COncernedCitizen (858 days ago)

The video did say that there was one in the USA.

I wouldn't expect too many more. By law, our kids must go to school. So you surrender your children to the state hoping they do a good job and then they do something that can be considered negligent and your child gets hurt. What should happen in these cases, because the state was involved you don’t have any rights to compensation?

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The video did say that there was one in the USA.

I wouldn't expect too many more. By law, our kids must go to school. So you surrender your children to the state hoping they do a good job and then they do something that can be considered negligent and your child gets hurt. What should happen in these cases, because the state was involved you don’t have any rights to compensation?

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I really don't think this would work in the states. Developed countries with high gun ownership don't have the same levels of gun related violence. Obviously this isn't about guns, but that fact does suggest that there is something more endemic about violence or weapon attitudes within American culture... a glorification of violence in the media perhaps, that Denmark probably doesn't suffer from in the same way.

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I really don't think this would work in the states. Developed countries with high gun ownership don't have the same levels of gun related violence. Obviously this isn't about guns, but that fact does suggest that there is something more endemic about violence or weapon attitudes within American culture... a glorification of violence in the media perhaps, that Denmark probably doesn't suffer from in the same way.

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COncernedCitizen COncernedCitizen (858 days ago)
Sorry, you lost me on your completely unrelated analogy.
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Sorry, you lost me on your completely unrelated analogy.
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Really? You think guns and knives are unrelated? Wowser.

My point is that there is a lot of gun violence in the USA which can't be attributed to easy access to guns. Pro-gun people always tell us how restricting their access wouldn't make any difference. That suggests that the USA is somehow more violent than comparable nations, or there is something within their culture that makes them generally less safe. Therefore, just because it's relatively safe to desensitize European kids to weapons or give them handling experience, it doesn't mean to say the same is true for American kids. I can see why historically, people would be more keen to keep any weapons (including knives) out of US schools.

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Really? You think guns and knives are unrelated? Wowser.

My point is that there is a lot of gun violence in the USA which can't be attributed to easy access to guns. Pro-gun people always tell us how restricting their access wouldn't make any difference. That suggests that the USA is somehow more violent than comparable nations, or there is something within their culture that makes them generally less safe. Therefore, just because it's relatively safe to desensitize European kids to weapons or give them handling experience, it doesn't mean to say the same is true for American kids. I can see why historically, people would be more keen to keep any weapons (including knives) out of US schools.

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COncernedCitizen COncernedCitizen (858 days ago)

Of course guns and knives are related. They are both tools.

The confusing part is why you decided to mention those in a conversation about kids falling out of trees. There was no discussion regarding violence but you squeezed that into the subject somehow.

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Of course guns and knives are related. They are both tools.

The confusing part is why you decided to mention those in a conversation about kids falling out of trees. There was no discussion regarding violence but you squeezed that into the subject somehow.

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I introduced violence as a possible reason why this scheme would not work in the USA. I thought that was obvious. Guns and knives are both weapons so violence is relevant.

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I introduced violence as a possible reason why this scheme would not work in the USA. I thought that was obvious. Guns and knives are both weapons so violence is relevant.

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WalterEgo WalterEgo (858 days ago)

"... can be considered negligent and your child gets hurt". Teacher said he has taken only one child to hospital in 17 years, and that was because a parent drove over the kid's foot (4:57).

My guess is that these kids will turn out healthier both physically and mentally compared to kids who are mollycoddled.

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"... can be considered negligent and your child gets hurt". Teacher said he has taken only one child to hospital in 17 years, and that was because a parent drove over the kid's foot (4:57).

My guess is that these kids will turn out healthier both physically and mentally compared to kids who are mollycoddled.

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COncernedCitizen COncernedCitizen (858 days ago)

With that one child that went to the hospital in 17 years, the amount of damage to that foot could have been extensive. That child may never be able to play professional football now and his potential income is limited because of it. Could have made millions but now will be in a minimum wage job.

It is possible that one of those branches could break and the child land on their head or back and die or be disabled for the rest of their lives. As someone that is responsible for the well-being of a child, they should not take the chances. If the parents let the child climb trees and the child falls out, they might lose custody of their own child due to them being unfit parents. We need to protect our children until they are old enough to make decisions for themselves. In kindergarden, they may not be wise enough to understand the ramifications of falling out of a tree.

We don't let children play with matches, drink alcohol, drive cars, or other dangerous activities for the same reason.

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With that one child that went to the hospital in 17 years, the amount of damage to that foot could have been extensive. That child may never be able to play professional football now and his potential income is limited because of it. Could have made millions but now will be in a minimum wage job.

It is possible that one of those branches could break and the child land on their head or back and die or be disabled for the rest of their lives. As someone that is responsible for the well-being of a child, they should not take the chances. If the parents let the child climb trees and the child falls out, they might lose custody of their own child due to them being unfit parents. We need to protect our children until they are old enough to make decisions for themselves. In kindergarden, they may not be wise enough to understand the ramifications of falling out of a tree.

We don't let children play with matches, drink alcohol, drive cars, or other dangerous activities for the same reason.

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Guest: (859 days ago)

Pedagogue? Most americans would want to arrest him

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Pedagogue? Most americans would want to arrest him

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