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Katie Hopkins vs Fat Woman

(10:41) Are fat people bad for business as British TV personality and journalist Katie Hopkins believes?

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COncernedCitizen COncernedCitizen (766 days ago)

Whatever happened to the metric system in the UK? Measuring weight in stones is not metric.

Miles per gallon or miles per hour measurements are also non metric. Beer is sold in pints. Tomatoes being sold at 99p per pound also isn't metric.

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Whatever happened to the metric system in the UK? Measuring weight in stones is not metric.

Miles per gallon or miles per hour measurements are also non metric. Beer is sold in pints. Tomatoes being sold at 99p per pound also isn't metric.

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TheBob TheBob (766 days ago)

Do you really want an answer to this?

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COncernedCitizen COncernedCitizen (766 days ago)

Yes because I'm curious. The USA hasn't adopted the metric system as well as the UK and I'd like to understand what roadblocks you encountered. Why are you still using old stones for people, miles for cars, pints for beer, pounds for fruits and vegetables, etc. I wish we would all go to the metric system and you have it a little better than we do.

I admit I have to convert things sometimes. For example, when someone says a device weighs 7 Kilos, I have to translate that into pounds for me to understand if that is a heavy object or a light one.

We sell soda and wine in liters but we sell milk in gallons. We have a mixture of metric and standard here and I think we need to go 100% metric but we are decades away from adopting it.

At least the UK had decided to go metric in 1965 or 1973 so you have a head start on us.

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Yes because I'm curious. The USA hasn't adopted the metric system as well as the UK and I'd like to understand what roadblocks you encountered. Why are you still using old stones for people, miles for cars, pints for beer, pounds for fruits and vegetables, etc. I wish we would all go to the metric system and you have it a little better than we do.

I admit I have to convert things sometimes. For example, when someone says a device weighs 7 Kilos, I have to translate that into pounds for me to understand if that is a heavy object or a light one.

We sell soda and wine in liters but we sell milk in gallons. We have a mixture of metric and standard here and I think we need to go 100% metric but we are decades away from adopting it.

At least the UK had decided to go metric in 1965 or 1973 so you have a head start on us.

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TheBob TheBob (765 days ago)

Here you go LINK

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Here you go LINK

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COncernedCitizen COncernedCitizen (765 days ago)

Article wasn't very helpful in explaining why you still use stones to weigh people. It has a lot of history in the article but didn't seem to directly address my question. Basically just stated what I had already known that some items are still using imperial measurements.

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Article wasn't very helpful in explaining why you still use stones to weigh people. It has a lot of history in the article but didn't seem to directly address my question. Basically just stated what I had already known that some items are still using imperial measurements.

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TheBob TheBob (765 days ago)

It's a legacy thing - the country is in conversion

If you ask a 20 year old how tall/heavy they are, they'll give you a metric answer. If you ask someone who's 50+ they'll give an imperial answer.

Generally all "official" measures are metric - if you buy anything it will be in metres/kilos/cc (or equivalent mm/gm/ml etc)

Weather forecasts quote both C & F for temperatures.

The two anomalies I can think of are draught beer in pubs still coming in pints and the road infrastructure is still shown as miles and mph.

I'd say beer is still in pints because it's "traditional" and the government doesn't want to deal with the grief of changing tradition. Also there's a traditional brewing lobby who generally donate to the tories: it would cost them to convert all the glassed to metric (but I geuss it's more that they want to avoid faffing about).

As for roads, nobody can be arsed to institute a programme to convert all the road signs to kilometres and kph.

This does however avoid the confusion I had in Eire a few years back. I couldn't understand how the drive to Donegal had taken so little time - until I realised the speed limit signs were mph but the distances were shown in kilometres

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It's a legacy thing - the country is in conversion

If you ask a 20 year old how tall/heavy they are, they'll give you a metric answer. If you ask someone who's 50+ they'll give an imperial answer.

Generally all "official" measures are metric - if you buy anything it will be in metres/kilos/cc (or equivalent mm/gm/ml etc)

Weather forecasts quote both C & F for temperatures.

The two anomalies I can think of are draught beer in pubs still coming in pints and the road infrastructure is still shown as miles and mph.

I'd say beer is still in pints because it's "traditional" and the government doesn't want to deal with the grief of changing tradition. Also there's a traditional brewing lobby who generally donate to the tories: it would cost them to convert all the glassed to metric (but I geuss it's more that they want to avoid faffing about).

As for roads, nobody can be arsed to institute a programme to convert all the road signs to kilometres and kph.

This does however avoid the confusion I had in Eire a few years back. I couldn't understand how the drive to Donegal had taken so little time - until I realised the speed limit signs were mph but the distances were shown in kilometres

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COncernedCitizen COncernedCitizen (765 days ago)
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Thanks for your input on that subject. When our national speed limit was removed (used to be 55 mph), we change all the signs and we have a lot of signs too for a country as big as ours.

Personally, I like the fahrenheit scale better than celcius. It is more precise because there are more integer values between freezing and boiling (180 numbers). In celcius, there's only 100. But I do like the concept of celcius being based on the freezing and boiling temperatures of water at sea level.

Since the UK government made the decision to go metric in 1965 and created many laws in the early 70's, you would think there would have been enough time to get all your signs changed. All the produce should be sold by the kilogram instead of pounds. But then again, pounds are more precise. There are approximately 2.2 pounds to a kilogram so if you sold tomatoes for 99p per pound today, you would then need to sell them for 2.17 £ which obviously is a larger amount. Better to sell produce by the ounce which would make it 6.19p/ounce.

Having metric use base 10 for everything makes the math very easy. It's confusing to know there are 16 ounces per pound, 2 cups per pint, 2 pints per quart, 4 quarts per gallon or 128 ounces per gallon. Ounces can be both a weight and a volume. There are 8 ounces per cup but 16 ounces in a pound. When you buy something like a box of cereal, it tells you how many ounces are in it and they have a disclaimer saying that it's a weight ounce and not a volume ounce so you don't complain when you open the box and the product has settled and you get half a box.

Then we have troy ounces which is weird. A normal ounce weighs 28.3495 grams but a troy ounce weighs 31.1035 . This is only used to weigh precious metals like gold and silver. When you have a gold necklace that you want to sell for scrap gold and are quoted a price, you actually get paid less than you would think because there are fewer troy ounces than there are regular ounces. This is supposedly done to keep a historical record of precious metal values but I think that could be recalculated so that is a bogus reason.

The last time I sold gold, they tried to trick me by buying it by the pennyweight and I was caught off guard and didn't have my conversion table available. Turns out to be 1.55517 grams per pennyweight but I would have to look that up again the next time I need it.

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Thanks for your input on that subject. When our national speed limit was removed (used to be 55 mph), we change all the signs and we have a lot of signs too for a country as big as ours.

Personally, I like the fahrenheit scale better than celcius. It is more precise because there are more integer values between freezing and boiling (180 numbers). In celcius, there's only 100. But I do like the concept of celcius being based on the freezing and boiling temperatures of water at sea level.

Since the UK government made the decision to go metric in 1965 and created many laws in the early 70's, you would think there would have been enough time to get all your signs changed. All the produce should be sold by the kilogram instead of pounds. But then again, pounds are more precise. There are approximately 2.2 pounds to a kilogram so if you sold tomatoes for 99p per pound today, you would then need to sell them for 2.17 £ which obviously is a larger amount. Better to sell produce by the ounce which would make it 6.19p/ounce.

Having metric use base 10 for everything makes the math very easy. It's confusing to know there are 16 ounces per pound, 2 cups per pint, 2 pints per quart, 4 quarts per gallon or 128 ounces per gallon. Ounces can be both a weight and a volume. There are 8 ounces per cup but 16 ounces in a pound. When you buy something like a box of cereal, it tells you how many ounces are in it and they have a disclaimer saying that it's a weight ounce and not a volume ounce so you don't complain when you open the box and the product has settled and you get half a box.

Then we have troy ounces which is weird. A normal ounce weighs 28.3495 grams but a troy ounce weighs 31.1035 . This is only used to weigh precious metals like gold and silver. When you have a gold necklace that you want to sell for scrap gold and are quoted a price, you actually get paid less than you would think because there are fewer troy ounces than there are regular ounces. This is supposedly done to keep a historical record of precious metal values but I think that could be recalculated so that is a bogus reason.

The last time I sold gold, they tried to trick me by buying it by the pennyweight and I was caught off guard and didn't have my conversion table available. Turns out to be 1.55517 grams per pennyweight but I would have to look that up again the next time I need it.

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