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Newsnight - Ed Miliband discusses universal basic income

Newsnight - Ed Miliband discusses universal basic income

(5:29) Former Labour leader Ed Miliband discusses the benefits of a universal basic income.

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Guest: (210 days ago)

The Elephant Man returns

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The Elephant Man returns

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Guest: MB (217 days ago)

I’ve been a fan of UBI for years ever since I heard that after the end of the cold war and the separation from centralised soviet control countries like Estonia were suddenly left with next to no government administration, welfare or tax collection experience or infrastructure to support it. So someone suggested sod this is all too complicated and costly to work out tax and benefits so why don’t we make sure all employers take a flat rate out of employees pay regardless of how many jobs the person may have, how much they earn, or whether they have reached some threshold etc. We then give everyone the same amount from the state - Job done! for what was a temporary measure turned out to be highly successful. One often unmentioned benefit of UBI is for the likes of UK where we have the media driven concept of work shy "scroungers" this would be alleviated and social divides lowered as the “scrounger” you pass in the street will be getting exactly the same as you! if they happy with that then that’s fine if you want more then work. Gone are the days losing benefits by getting a job that only gives you the same income, or marginally more, but means they have to get up a 6am every day. Also extra revenue is predicted as the tax on the section of the employed that take cash to avoid the loss of their benefits becomes less of a concern. Some people believe people work for money! well obviously they do to a certain level i.e. for a basic standard of living but after that? think it’s more a drive to achieve a certain social standing/respect (e.g. I’m a ladeda Doctor - and what do you do?) or giving back by doing charity work is a far bigger incentive.

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I’ve been a fan of UBI for years ever since I heard that after the end of the cold war and the separation from centralised soviet control countries like Estonia were suddenly left with next to no government administration, welfare or tax collection experience or infrastructure to support it. So someone suggested sod this is all too complicated and costly to work out tax and benefits so why don’t we make sure all employers take a flat rate out of employees pay regardless of how many jobs the person may have, how much they earn, or whether they have reached some threshold etc. We then give everyone the same amount from the state - Job done! for what was a temporary measure turned out to be highly successful. One often unmentioned benefit of UBI is for the likes of UK where we have the media driven concept of work shy "scroungers" this would be alleviated and social divides lowered as the “scrounger” you pass in the street will be getting exactly the same as you! if they happy with that then that’s fine if you want more then work. Gone are the days losing benefits by getting a job that only gives you the same income, or marginally more, but means they have to get up a 6am every day. Also extra revenue is predicted as the tax on the section of the employed that take cash to avoid the loss of their benefits becomes less of a concern. Some people believe people work for money! well obviously they do to a certain level i.e. for a basic standard of living but after that? think it’s more a drive to achieve a certain social standing/respect (e.g. I’m a ladeda Doctor - and what do you do?) or giving back by doing charity work is a far bigger incentive.

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Guest: (216 days ago)

Communist go home.

Go to Norway and see what this has done to the cost of living . £12 for a Cup of Tea , £5 for bread and so on .

Only a Corbynite would think this great as you have no Idea.

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Communist go home.

Go to Norway and see what this has done to the cost of living . £12 for a Cup of Tea , £5 for bread and so on .

Only a Corbynite would think this great as you have no Idea.

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Guest: MB (210 days ago)

Norway doesnt have UBI! what's this guy on about? How did he get from UBI potentially being a good thing to "Communist go home"! ****** Numpty

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Norway doesnt have UBI! what's this guy on about? How did he get from UBI potentially being a good thing to "Communist go home"! ****** Numpty

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Guest: (209 days ago)

Communists go home

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Communists go home

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Guest: (210 days ago)

Norwegian Citizens receive around £24000 each from gas industry as a minimum income. The original poster is quite right . Corbyn the red leg

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Norwegian Citizens receive around £24000 each from gas industry as a minimum income. The original poster is quite right . Corbyn the red leg

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Guest: (215 days ago)

Traitor. Standing in the way of progress to line the pockets of your elitist friends. Another sheltered snob living with Daddy's money

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Traitor. Standing in the way of progress to line the pockets of your elitist friends. Another sheltered snob living with Daddy's money

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Guest: (214 days ago)

"Traitor" is the description of Corbyn , "useful idiot" is the description for you.

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"Traitor" is the description of Corbyn , "useful idiot" is the description for you.

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Guest: (214 days ago)

Traitor is the name for May and her gullible followers, just ask Grenfell. Spoilt millennial is the term for you.

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Traitor is the name for May and her gullible followers, just ask Grenfell. Spoilt millennial is the term for you.

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Guest: (212 days ago)

Oh and your local Labour Grenfell Mouthpiece today exposed as a conman , shame on you yet again . Traitor.

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Oh and your local Labour Grenfell Mouthpiece today exposed as a conman , shame on you yet again . Traitor.

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Guest: (212 days ago)

What has Grenfell got to do with it ???? Lot of Leftist nonsense again and again and again . Your little games are up and 90% of the population now on to you , Communists

And just for the record yet again , Cladding passed by Labour building control , Local MP whilst not an MP but on the residents board rejected and voted against Sprinklers ....as you well know.

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What has Grenfell got to do with it ???? Lot of Leftist nonsense again and again and again . Your little games are up and 90% of the population now on to you , Communists

And just for the record yet again , Cladding passed by Labour building control , Local MP whilst not an MP but on the residents board rejected and voted against Sprinklers ....as you well know.

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Guest: (212 days ago)

LOL traitor Torybot doesn't compute, so filled with his McCarthyism brainwashing.

Just for the recordTed Heath was the PM when Grenfell was designed and built, 1974. Look it up. (By the way, he was a proud Tory, didn't you know?) Since then there have been 24 years of Tory rule, 24 years of Tory building checks (more than Labour years). Sure enough, when it burns to the ground, May doesn't even turn up. Traitor. But then again as you know they have never cared for the working people. That's why a millennial like you living on Daddy's money is gullible enough to vote them in.

Let's hope your Traitor friends organise another election. It did them so well last time that an OAP nearly took a majority! Brilliant work, Torybots!

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LOL traitor Torybot doesn't compute, so filled with his McCarthyism brainwashing.

Just for the recordTed Heath was the PM when Grenfell was designed and built, 1974. Look it up. (By the way, he was a proud Tory, didn't you know?) Since then there have been 24 years of Tory rule, 24 years of Tory building checks (more than Labour years). Sure enough, when it burns to the ground, May doesn't even turn up. Traitor. But then again as you know they have never cared for the working people. That's why a millennial like you living on Daddy's money is gullible enough to vote them in.

Let's hope your Traitor friends organise another election. It did them so well last time that an OAP nearly took a majority! Brilliant work, Torybots!

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haha you are a knob head.

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haha you are a knob head.

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Guest: (212 days ago)

If you ever consider getting a job , a good clown you would make .

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If you ever consider getting a job , a good clown you would make .

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Guest: (212 days ago)

And when was the tower refurbished including installation of the cladding?? ........1974 ....no......so what nonsense you spout. But that’s what Corbynites do , can’t believe you’re that thick.....but then again.

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And when was the tower refurbished including installation of the cladding?? ........1974 ....no......so what nonsense you spout. But that’s what Corbynites do , can’t believe you’re that thick.....but then again.

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Guest: (211 days ago)

Ooh 2 messages, aren't we lucky?

The cladding system was passed by a building control officer from the Royal Borough of Kensington and Chelsea on 15 May 2015. As you clearly know jackcrap about politics, back then it was David Cameron as the Prime Minister, and he was a Conservative. So built under the Tories, checked under the Tories, and the Tories don't even show up to meet the victims. Why would they? Scummy working class minorities, yeah? Tory Traitors turning their back as always on the hard working people of this country.

Tell us more about how thick we are. Maybe lie about a few more dates. Maybe tell us over 2 or 3 messages and we'll pretend you have a friend.

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Ooh 2 messages, aren't we lucky?

The cladding system was passed by a building control officer from the Royal Borough of Kensington and Chelsea on 15 May 2015. As you clearly know jackcrap about politics, back then it was David Cameron as the Prime Minister, and he was a Conservative. So built under the Tories, checked under the Tories, and the Tories don't even show up to meet the victims. Why would they? Scummy working class minorities, yeah? Tory Traitors turning their back as always on the hard working people of this country.

Tell us more about how thick we are. Maybe lie about a few more dates. Maybe tell us over 2 or 3 messages and we'll pretend you have a friend.

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Guest: (211 days ago)

Taken your time coming up with that ......and it’s how thick YOU are not WE. System passed by Labour under Tony Blair government and used extensively around Europe as well as the UK. Local Labour MP , as you’re ignoring, voted whilst on the residents association, not to have sprinklers installed to the tower.

So you think working class minorities are “ Scummy”. Your words....

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Taken your time coming up with that ......and it’s how thick YOU are not WE. System passed by Labour under Tony Blair government and used extensively around Europe as well as the UK. Local Labour MP , as you’re ignoring, voted whilst on the residents association, not to have sprinklers installed to the tower.

So you think working class minorities are “ Scummy”. Your words....

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Guest: (211 days ago)

It took me 30 seconds on Google to disprove your horsesh!t statistics. Grenfell built 1974 under Conservatives, checked most recently under Conservatives 2015 (even when it was deemed combustible). Brandon Lewis (Tory immigration minister) said in 2014 that building developers should not be forced to fit sprinklers and fought it all the way, prevented it from being brought in. That's right. Now you know. But it's no surprise because that sums up your ignorance and hatred for the working class. Maybot was so ashamed she couldn't even attend to look them in the eye. Disgusting traitors.

Me or we? You think I'm the only user of BoreMe who likes to educate dumb Torybots? Got bad news for you kiddo. If you were looking for your public school buddies who don't fact-check you clicked on the wrong site.

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It took me 30 seconds on Google to disprove your horsesh!t statistics. Grenfell built 1974 under Conservatives, checked most recently under Conservatives 2015 (even when it was deemed combustible). Brandon Lewis (Tory immigration minister) said in 2014 that building developers should not be forced to fit sprinklers and fought it all the way, prevented it from being brought in. That's right. Now you know. But it's no surprise because that sums up your ignorance and hatred for the working class. Maybot was so ashamed she couldn't even attend to look them in the eye. Disgusting traitors.

Me or we? You think I'm the only user of BoreMe who likes to educate dumb Torybots? Got bad news for you kiddo. If you were looking for your public school buddies who don't fact-check you clicked on the wrong site.

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Guest: (210 days ago)

Both wrng, Grenfell was caused by Conservative austerity, the survivors made that clear

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Both wrng, Grenfell was caused by Conservative austerity, the survivors made that clear

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Guest: (210 days ago)

LOL

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LOL

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Guest: (210 days ago)

Usual Far Left hate speach and outright lies / twisting of facts to try and drum up support for thier Communist ideals. You and your kind are shameful ....who is next on your list......maybe the " Rich Jews " ?

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Usual Far Left hate speach and outright lies / twisting of facts to try and drum up support for thier Communist ideals. You and your kind are shameful ....who is next on your list......maybe the " Rich Jews " ?

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Guest: (210 days ago)

LOL

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LOL

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3 friends

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3 friends

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Taken your time coming up with that ......and it’s how thick YOU are not WE. System passed by Labour under Tony Blair government and used extensively around Europe as well as the UK. Local Labour MP , as you’re ignoring, voted whilst on the residents association, not to have sprinklers installed to the tower.

So you think working class minorities are “ Scummy”. Your words....

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Taken your time coming up with that ......and it’s how thick YOU are not WE. System passed by Labour under Tony Blair government and used extensively around Europe as well as the UK. Local Labour MP , as you’re ignoring, voted whilst on the residents association, not to have sprinklers installed to the tower.

So you think working class minorities are “ Scummy”. Your words....

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Guest: (211 days ago)

Four

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Four

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2 Friends

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2 Friends

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