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Guest: (72 days ago)

Not sure what point this is trying to prove?  Maybe that it takes longer to systematically explain a method designed to reinforce understanding, than it does to silently use a method designed for speed that you've learned and practised for decades?  

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Not sure what point this is trying to prove?  Maybe that it takes longer to systematically explain a method designed to reinforce understanding, than it does to silently use a method designed for speed that you've learned and practised for decades?  

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Guest: Guest2d (64 days ago)
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I kindly say that the alternate method is so long and complicated, I don't believe it reinforces an understand of what multiplication does. To explain the older method, one could just split the problem into two steps. 35 times 10 plus 35 times 2. and the opposite: 12 times 30 plus 12 times 5. Being faster one can do many problems, reinforcing the method. I went through trying to help my daughter and son with this method...frustration.

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I kindly say that the alternate method is so long and complicated, I don't believe it reinforces an understand of what multiplication does. To explain the older method, one could just split the problem into two steps. 35 times 10 plus 35 times 2. and the opposite: 12 times 30 plus 12 times 5. Being faster one can do many problems, reinforcing the method. I went through trying to help my daughter and son with this method...frustration.

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Mesmerelda Mesmerelda (72 days ago)

Before anyone says otherwise - it's maths. Math is short for mathematic, which is not a real word.

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Before anyone says otherwise - it's maths. Math is short for mathematic, which is not a real word.

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Guest: (72 days ago)

Math is American English, Maths is UK English.  Just like Color versus Colour and Civilization versus Civilisation.

If you want to get technical about it, mathematics is a singular noun so you would say "Mathematics is fun" not "Mathematics are fun."  Since it's a singular noun, you abbreviate it as Math.

Although there might not be a "mathematic" word, there is one for "mathematical."  It's not "mathematicsal"

You have mathematical equations or math equations, not maths equations.

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Math is American English, Maths is UK English.  Just like Color versus Colour and Civilization versus Civilisation.

If you want to get technical about it, mathematics is a singular noun so you would say "Mathematics is fun" not "Mathematics are fun."  Since it's a singular noun, you abbreviate it as Math.

Although there might not be a "mathematic" word, there is one for "mathematical."  It's not "mathematicsal"

You have mathematical equations or math equations, not maths equations.

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Guest: (72 days ago)

I agree that math vs maths are both valid, depending on where you live.  You should have stopped there instead of trying to be technical.

Mathematics might be usually used as though it is singular noun, but "if you want to get technical about it", it's actually plural.  

And even then, here is some news for you (or do I mean here ARE some news for you?): singular nouns can also end in 'S', as can plural nouns that are treated as singular.

That's why in the USA, you can't compete in athletic, you can't study astrophysic, and your efforts to be technical in linguistic on Boreme don't work out so well.

Good effort though.

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I agree that math vs maths are both valid, depending on where you live.  You should have stopped there instead of trying to be technical.

Mathematics might be usually used as though it is singular noun, but "if you want to get technical about it", it's actually plural.  

And even then, here is some news for you (or do I mean here ARE some news for you?): singular nouns can also end in 'S', as can plural nouns that are treated as singular.

That's why in the USA, you can't compete in athletic, you can't study astrophysic, and your efforts to be technical in linguistic on Boreme don't work out so well.

Good effort though.

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Guest: (72 days ago)

“it's actually plural”  I disagree and that’s why you use is instead of are in my example sentence.

You can have an athletic supporter.

How would you abbreviate astrophysics?

“here is some news” Another good example of a singular noun ending in s.  There are some others like: boss, billiards, measles, mumps, species.

If you want to get complicated, what do you do about a pair of pants, pair of glasses, or a pair of scissors when they only mean one object but refer to a pair?  "Over there is a pair of scissors?"  OMG, mind blowing.

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“it's actually plural”  I disagree and that’s why you use is instead of are in my example sentence.

You can have an athletic supporter.

How would you abbreviate astrophysics?

“here is some news” Another good example of a singular noun ending in s.  There are some others like: boss, billiards, measles, mumps, species.

If you want to get complicated, what do you do about a pair of pants, pair of glasses, or a pair of scissors when they only mean one object but refer to a pair?  "Over there is a pair of scissors?"  OMG, mind blowing.

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Guest: (71 days ago)

You can disagree, but you're wrong.  Feel free to look it up.

You use 'is' instead of 'are' because just as I said, it is usually treated *as though* it is singular, but you wanted to be technical, and technically, it's plural.

Now you know.

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You can disagree, but you're wrong.  Feel free to look it up.

You use 'is' instead of 'are' because just as I said, it is usually treated *as though* it is singular, but you wanted to be technical, and technically, it's plural.

Now you know.

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Guest: (72 days ago)

She forgot to check off the 10.

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She forgot to check off the 10.

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Guest: (72 days ago)

I'm for old school maths manily because im old (51). BUT i think both way nuch the same except the new way is easier to explain and for kids to peace it all together. A better test and comparison of new vs old would be if the new had to explain how it worked which i'm guessing would up being more convoluted and complicated for the kids and def not a planted in long-term memory.

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I'm for old school maths manily because im old (51). BUT i think both way nuch the same except the new way is easier to explain and for kids to peace it all together. A better test and comparison of new vs old would be if the new had to explain how it worked which i'm guessing would up being more convoluted and complicated for the kids and def not a planted in long-term memory.

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