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Now You Know | What will Tesla's Battery Day will reveal?

Now You Know | What will Tesla's Battery Day will reveal?

(20:24) Zac and Jesse speculate on a recent leak about Battery Day and what tis might mean for Tesla going forward. Battery Day is on Tuesday, September 22.
Now You Know YT channel Sep 18, 2020

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Guest: (39 days ago)

Feeek, wish i had Tesla stocks.

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Feeek, wish i had Tesla stocks.

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Guest: (39 days ago)

What seems to be the problem then?  It's available on the open market.

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What seems to be the problem then?  It's available on the open market.

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WalterEgo WalterEgo (37 days ago)

Battery Day will be the final nail in the coffin for fossil-fuelled vehicles.

Don't buy a new fossil-fuelled car - it'll be worth nothing when you come to sell it in a few years time. 

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Battery Day will be the final nail in the coffin for fossil-fuelled vehicles.

Don't buy a new fossil-fuelled car - it'll be worth nothing when you come to sell it in a few years time. 

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Guest: (37 days ago)

Utter balls.  Most countries will still be selling brand new fossil fuelled vehicles right up to 2040 (including the UK most probably). 

Buy a new fossil fuel car, use it for 10 years, then sell second-hand.  It will still have more than a decade left in it for anyone that can be bothered.

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Utter balls.  Most countries will still be selling brand new fossil fuelled vehicles right up to 2040 (including the UK most probably). 

Buy a new fossil fuel car, use it for 10 years, then sell second-hand.  It will still have more than a decade left in it for anyone that can be bothered.

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WalterEgo WalterEgo (37 days ago)

Sure, you go ahead and spend thousands on a brand spanking new fossil-fuelled dinosaur. You'd better hope the scrappage schemes are generous.

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Sure, you go ahead and spend thousands on a brand spanking new fossil-fuelled dinosaur. You'd better hope the scrappage schemes are generous.

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Guest: (37 days ago)

Will do.  If you think the average lifespan of a new car means that there's even a slight risk you will seriously affected by a ban on new cars 2 decades away, you're nuts.  Go ahead spending thousands on a novely electric vehicles with dubious technology dependent on dubious resources.  The rest of us will be more careful. 

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Will do.  If you think the average lifespan of a new car means that there's even a slight risk you will seriously affected by a ban on new cars 2 decades away, you're nuts.  Go ahead spending thousands on a novely electric vehicles with dubious technology dependent on dubious resources.  The rest of us will be more careful. 

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WalterEgo WalterEgo (37 days ago)

2040 you say. Of the 21 countries planning to ban fossil-fuelled car sales, only 8 have a date of 2040 or later. UK is 2030. LINK

The pressure will also be to advance those dates - just like what the UK did 3 years ago - from 2040 to 2030.

EVs are "dubious technology and dubious resources"? You're funny. Wait till after Battery Day before you judge the technology. Sure cobalt has some human rights issues, and lithium has some pollution issues - but fossil fuels are a species level threat.

Have you considered a diesel? They smell great.

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2040 you say. Of the 21 countries planning to ban fossil-fuelled car sales, only 8 have a date of 2040 or later. UK is 2030. LINK

The pressure will also be to advance those dates - just like what the UK did 3 years ago - from 2040 to 2030.

EVs are "dubious technology and dubious resources"? You're funny. Wait till after Battery Day before you judge the technology. Sure cobalt has some human rights issues, and lithium has some pollution issues - but fossil fuels are a species level threat.

Have you considered a diesel? They smell great.

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Guest: (37 days ago)

Dishonest.  "Ban fossil-fuelled car sales".  More than half are planning to only ban new car sales, so buying a car now and selling second-hand will be fine.  Most of the countries that have announced action before 2040 (12 countries out of 195), haven't legislated yet, or describe it as a target, or are 'researching a timetable', or are not actually going to ban but are merely using incentives for EVs.  You're scaremongering with disinformation.  Even the UK's move was today's news and is very speculative.  

'Battery day'?  What a good little Fanboy you are, blind to the dangers and drawbacks of what you're promoting.  "Some human rights issues", "some pollution issues"?  Shame on you.  

The pro-EV brigade are so full of propaganda.  Stop your evangelical crap.  People will still be driving fossil fuelled vehicles in 2 decades time.  When the technology, resources, and infrastructure are ready for us (and within budget for people outside of your particular white middle-class bubble), people will begin to shift opinion, and your dream will happen eventually.  

In the meantime, fancy buying a Sinclair C5?  It'll be the next big thing.

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Dishonest.  "Ban fossil-fuelled car sales".  More than half are planning to only ban new car sales, so buying a car now and selling second-hand will be fine.  Most of the countries that have announced action before 2040 (12 countries out of 195), haven't legislated yet, or describe it as a target, or are 'researching a timetable', or are not actually going to ban but are merely using incentives for EVs.  You're scaremongering with disinformation.  Even the UK's move was today's news and is very speculative.  

'Battery day'?  What a good little Fanboy you are, blind to the dangers and drawbacks of what you're promoting.  "Some human rights issues", "some pollution issues"?  Shame on you.  

The pro-EV brigade are so full of propaganda.  Stop your evangelical crap.  People will still be driving fossil fuelled vehicles in 2 decades time.  When the technology, resources, and infrastructure are ready for us (and within budget for people outside of your particular white middle-class bubble), people will begin to shift opinion, and your dream will happen eventually.  

In the meantime, fancy buying a Sinclair C5?  It'll be the next big thing.

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WalterEgo WalterEgo (35 days ago)

Ha, now I see why you are confused. You brought up 2040, so I assumed that you knew it was about banning new car sales. 

When I said your fossil fuelled dinosaur will be worth nothing, it's because who in their right mind is going to buy a fossil fuelled car in 5 years time. There is a shortage of museums.

Did you watch Battery Day? Tesla's batteries will be cobalt free and they will be mining lithium in Nevada in a pollution free way. Shame on you for ignoring the fact that fossil fuels are a species level threat.

I can see you in 5 years time - driving around in your lump of iron so new it hasn't even started rusting yet, looking for a filling station that you're sure existed last week, while your peers glide past reading the Financial Times. They saved so much on fuel and maintenance costs that they could now lie back and enjoy the ride, watching their Tesla stocks pay their mortgage, while they plan a weekend break on Mars.

There's some amazing beach property in Florida going cheap. Let me know if you're interested.

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Ha, now I see why you are confused. You brought up 2040, so I assumed that you knew it was about banning new car sales. 

When I said your fossil fuelled dinosaur will be worth nothing, it's because who in their right mind is going to buy a fossil fuelled car in 5 years time. There is a shortage of museums.

Did you watch Battery Day? Tesla's batteries will be cobalt free and they will be mining lithium in Nevada in a pollution free way. Shame on you for ignoring the fact that fossil fuels are a species level threat.

I can see you in 5 years time - driving around in your lump of iron so new it hasn't even started rusting yet, looking for a filling station that you're sure existed last week, while your peers glide past reading the Financial Times. They saved so much on fuel and maintenance costs that they could now lie back and enjoy the ride, watching their Tesla stocks pay their mortgage, while they plan a weekend break on Mars.

There's some amazing beach property in Florida going cheap. Let me know if you're interested.

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Did I "watch Battery Day"?  "Ha" indeed!  Oh you better hope I didn't, it was delicious!  Shares dropping by $50 billion!  Even an acolyte like you must have been sorely disappointed in your Messiah.  More empty promises, I bet you wish you hadn't mentioned it.  Another 3 years, Elon? By Tesla standards that's what, 5, 8, 10 years?  Humiliating! 

I brought up 2040 with good reason.  Sorry you weren't aware that barely 6% of the world's nations have anything planned before 2040, and those that do fall well short of a guaranteed ban on fossil-fuel vehicle sales.  It was all there on the page you posted.  

For the UK, I don't trust the government (particularly post-Brexit) to enforce a ban on brand new fossil-fuel vehicles before then, and I know for absolute certainty that plenty of people will be driving them long after.  ICE vehicles remain considerably more efficient for longer journeys and higher speeds, there is no outright ban on the cards, there are nearly 14 million diesel vehicles currently on the roads, and plenty will be sold that haven't even been manufactured yet.  In fact, you probably will have got through 3 rushed overpriced Tesla prototypes with failing batteries before someone with a battered diesel volvo will even need a service.  Sad but true.

Did you know there are fewer than 30 thousand EVs in the UK at the moment with 11,000 locations to charge?  You clearly think that's viable, so having 14 million diesel vehicles (or even half of that) will be even more so, especially for vehicles with better range and economy.  The fuel market for second-hand cars will be huge in comparison, and you know it.  Concoct your little fantasies if it makes you feel better.

It must be hard for you to imagine that those outside your cosy middle-class bubble may have economic reasons for not jumping on the Musk bandwagon, but believe me, plenty do.  It must rock your world to think that plenty of people buy second-hand cars expecting to drive them into the ground.  Crazy right, fancy buying a car without considering depreciation!  What an insight into your world!  

Don't fret, your vision might become reality, but not within your lifetime.  Feel free to hold your breath and hope Musk can shoulder your fragile dreams.  

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Did I "watch Battery Day"?  "Ha" indeed!  Oh you better hope I didn't, it was delicious!  Shares dropping by $50 billion!  Even an acolyte like you must have been sorely disappointed in your Messiah.  More empty promises, I bet you wish you hadn't mentioned it.  Another 3 years, Elon? By Tesla standards that's what, 5, 8, 10 years?  Humiliating! 

I brought up 2040 with good reason.  Sorry you weren't aware that barely 6% of the world's nations have anything planned before 2040, and those that do fall well short of a guaranteed ban on fossil-fuel vehicle sales.  It was all there on the page you posted.  

For the UK, I don't trust the government (particularly post-Brexit) to enforce a ban on brand new fossil-fuel vehicles before then, and I know for absolute certainty that plenty of people will be driving them long after.  ICE vehicles remain considerably more efficient for longer journeys and higher speeds, there is no outright ban on the cards, there are nearly 14 million diesel vehicles currently on the roads, and plenty will be sold that haven't even been manufactured yet.  In fact, you probably will have got through 3 rushed overpriced Tesla prototypes with failing batteries before someone with a battered diesel volvo will even need a service.  Sad but true.

Did you know there are fewer than 30 thousand EVs in the UK at the moment with 11,000 locations to charge?  You clearly think that's viable, so having 14 million diesel vehicles (or even half of that) will be even more so, especially for vehicles with better range and economy.  The fuel market for second-hand cars will be huge in comparison, and you know it.  Concoct your little fantasies if it makes you feel better.

It must be hard for you to imagine that those outside your cosy middle-class bubble may have economic reasons for not jumping on the Musk bandwagon, but believe me, plenty do.  It must rock your world to think that plenty of people buy second-hand cars expecting to drive them into the ground.  Crazy right, fancy buying a car without considering depreciation!  What an insight into your world!  

Don't fret, your vision might become reality, but not within your lifetime.  Feel free to hold your breath and hope Musk can shoulder your fragile dreams.  

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