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NowThis | Trump supporters explain why they aren't wearing masks

NowThis | Trump supporters explain why they aren't wearing masks

(4:39) Why Trump supporters chose not to wear masks at a crowded rally in Nevada.
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Guest: (35 days ago)

How does someone not wearing a seatbelt or helmet infringe upon your rights?

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How does someone not wearing a seatbelt or helmet infringe upon your rights?

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Guest: JoeTaicoon (35 days ago)

By this logic, people should be alowed to drive drunk.

If people getting infected were only endangering themselves, fine with me. Go get sick. I will not even complain (much) about them taxing the health system, by needing care during their sickness. Care that could be focused on others not knowingly running the risk.

That is just not the case, is it? They run a risk and they certainly do expose others to the same risk. That last part is where the issue is, and how that is hard to understand... I really do wonder...

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By this logic, people should be alowed to drive drunk.

If people getting infected were only endangering themselves, fine with me. Go get sick. I will not even complain (much) about them taxing the health system, by needing care during their sickness. Care that could be focused on others not knowingly running the risk.

That is just not the case, is it? They run a risk and they certainly do expose others to the same risk. That last part is where the issue is, and how that is hard to understand... I really do wonder...

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Guest: (34 days ago)

Your drunk analogy doesn't work.  Driving drunk puts other people at risk.  Me not wearing a helmet or a seat belt doesn't hurt anyone else except myself.  

If you want to factor in healthcare costs, dying early because of not wearing safety gear can save the healthcare system in the long run.  Eventually everyone will need healthcare whether they wait until they are older and stay in a nursing home for a couple decades or use it when they are in their 20's for a couple hours while bleeding out from a brain hemorrhage for not wearing a helmet.

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Your drunk analogy doesn't work.  Driving drunk puts other people at risk.  Me not wearing a helmet or a seat belt doesn't hurt anyone else except myself.  

If you want to factor in healthcare costs, dying early because of not wearing safety gear can save the healthcare system in the long run.  Eventually everyone will need healthcare whether they wait until they are older and stay in a nursing home for a couple decades or use it when they are in their 20's for a couple hours while bleeding out from a brain hemorrhage for not wearing a helmet.

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Guest: (35 days ago)

People who are vulnerable should self isolate regardless of age.  That means the majority of younger people that get it won't need treatment, won't use up hospital resources, and won't infect people who are vulnerable.

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People who are vulnerable should self isolate regardless of age.  That means the majority of younger people that get it won't need treatment, won't use up hospital resources, and won't infect people who are vulnerable.

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Guest: (33 days ago)

Thanks for your solidarity, mate! 

Let us isolate older people. Put them in a cage. So we can party!!!!! Yeah.

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Thanks for your solidarity, mate! 

Let us isolate older people. Put them in a cage. So we can party!!!!! Yeah.

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WalterEgo WalterEgo (35 days ago)

How do you know if you are vulnerable? A friend of mine has long Covid. It's been going on for 6 months now. He is mid thirties and was otherwise healthy. Was he vulnerable?

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How do you know if you are vulnerable? A friend of mine has long Covid. It's been going on for 6 months now. He is mid thirties and was otherwise healthy. Was he vulnerable?

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Guest: (35 days ago)

You can get covid if you're not vulnerable obviously.

It just won't make much of a difference.

I have a friend whose partner caught it.  Nasty flu, recovered inside of a week, no test, no hospital appointment.

If you don't have any underlying health conditions, you'll almost certainly be fine.

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You can get covid if you're not vulnerable obviously.

It just won't make much of a difference.

I have a friend whose partner caught it.  Nasty flu, recovered inside of a week, no test, no hospital appointment.

If you don't have any underlying health conditions, you'll almost certainly be fine.

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WalterEgo WalterEgo (35 days ago)

I wasn't sure what vulnerable meant. Obviously you'd be vulnerable if there was a serious risk of death. But what about permanent brain damage from long Covid - is that serious enough to make you vulnerable? 

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I wasn't sure what vulnerable meant. Obviously you'd be vulnerable if there was a serious risk of death. But what about permanent brain damage from long Covid - is that serious enough to make you vulnerable? 

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Guest: (34 days ago)

You would know if you're vulnerable.  The NHS notify you. 

Of course there will be people that slip through the net, by mostly the people at high risk are well aware and can choose to act accordingly.  

The risk to health and wellbeing of enforcing tight restrictions on people who are not high risk (and their businesses) will be played out over the coming years and is already becoming evident.  

 

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You would know if you're vulnerable.  The NHS notify you. 

Of course there will be people that slip through the net, by mostly the people at high risk are well aware and can choose to act accordingly.  

The risk to health and wellbeing of enforcing tight restrictions on people who are not high risk (and their businesses) will be played out over the coming years and is already becoming evident.  

 

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Guest: JoeTaicoon (35 days ago)

People who have an issue getting run over by a drunk driver (not quick enough reflexes) should stay away from the roads in the evenings, where the risk is highest.

Be aware,though, that while some people are a much higher risk for covid, no one is really safe from it. 

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People who have an issue getting run over by a drunk driver (not quick enough reflexes) should stay away from the roads in the evenings, where the risk is highest.

Be aware,though, that while some people are a much higher risk for covid, no one is really safe from it. 

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Guest: (35 days ago)

No one is at greater risk from a drunk driver than anyone else.  

Some people are significantly more at risk from covid than others.

They are the ones that need protection and isolation.  

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No one is at greater risk from a drunk driver than anyone else.  

Some people are significantly more at risk from covid than others.

They are the ones that need protection and isolation.  

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Guest: (33 days ago)

Isolation over years? Seriously?
And risk is not well know. 

Of course, some of us do not care much about other people. Let us go and have a huge party for anyone without any illness (so far) and below 50. 

Yeah! Fuck those over 50 or 60 or something. Put them in a cage.
That also applies to anyone who is fat (huge risk, so many in the US are at risk) or has any respiratory problem. And of cours, kill those young ones who are at risk. Get rid of them, or at the very least, give them long-term illness so we can party. 

It is party time!!! 

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Isolation over years? Seriously?
And risk is not well know. 

Of course, some of us do not care much about other people. Let us go and have a huge party for anyone without any illness (so far) and below 50. 

Yeah! Fuck those over 50 or 60 or something. Put them in a cage.
That also applies to anyone who is fat (huge risk, so many in the US are at risk) or has any respiratory problem. And of cours, kill those young ones who are at risk. Get rid of them, or at the very least, give them long-term illness so we can party. 

It is party time!!! 

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Isolation for as long as it takes to be able to protect them.  Risk is well known.  The majority of people can say for certain if they are vulnerable.  If you're not sure, ask your doctor.

I see your point though.  It's much more fair to screw up our economy equally for everyone, create massive unemployment, make it impossible to get the resources to develop a vaccine, cripple education, and bring on a wave of mental and physical health problems for everyone.  Let's show solidarity by treating everyone as if they're the high risk 3%, and that way no one can get supported.  Top idea!

Lockdown time!!!

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Isolation for as long as it takes to be able to protect them.  Risk is well known.  The majority of people can say for certain if they are vulnerable.  If you're not sure, ask your doctor.

I see your point though.  It's much more fair to screw up our economy equally for everyone, create massive unemployment, make it impossible to get the resources to develop a vaccine, cripple education, and bring on a wave of mental and physical health problems for everyone.  Let's show solidarity by treating everyone as if they're the high risk 3%, and that way no one can get supported.  Top idea!

Lockdown time!!!

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WolfPad17 WolfPad17 (33 days ago)

Trump supporters! Let them reap what they sow!

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Trump supporters! Let them reap what they sow!

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Guest: (33 days ago)

That's what we said about Brexit.  Turns out, everyone has to reap what idiots sow, and idiots aren't known for their ability to accept responsibility.

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That's what we said about Brexit.  Turns out, everyone has to reap what idiots sow, and idiots aren't known for their ability to accept responsibility.

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