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Guest: McV (5682 days ago)
Yep, it'll work - but you'll have to put in more energy to split the water to Hydrogen & Oxygen than you'll get back. So where is that energy coming from? A petrol engine in the back of his car?
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Yep, it'll work - but you'll have to put in more energy to split the water to Hydrogen & Oxygen than you'll get back. So where is that energy coming from? A petrol engine in the back of his car?
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Guest: Winky (5683 days ago)
Wow - if it is true and I can't see that it isn't, that's pretty amazing. I don't think Dubya would like it though... no oil.
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Wow - if it is true and I can't see that it isn't, that's pretty amazing. I don't think Dubya would like it though... no oil.
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Guest: Richardo (5683 days ago)
Unbelievable, I hope it can work for fuel, though I'm sure Bush wont back it cos he's an oil man!
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Unbelievable, I hope it can work for fuel, though I'm sure Bush wont back it cos he's an oil man!
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Guest: nocturnalmoe@fsmail.net (5680 days ago)
I have heard of this technology previously so I do believe it is possible. I think it would solve many problems and make the world a better cleaner place but the question is will the corporations that run this world allow us to power our cars on something that cannot be taxed?????
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I have heard of this technology previously so I do believe it is possible. I think it would solve many problems and make the world a better cleaner place but the question is will the corporations that run this world allow us to power our cars on something that cannot be taxed?????
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Guest: colm ryan (5683 days ago)
He's an ugly bastard that looks like he could do with a ride from a bloke. If I ever met him i would stick that blow torch up his arse. If you wanna get in touch my name is Colm Ryan I live in 17 Seanglass Rd, Beaumont, Dublin, Ireland!!
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He's an ugly bastard that looks like he could do with a ride from a bloke. If I ever met him i would stick that blow torch up his arse. If you wanna get in touch my name is Colm Ryan I live in 17 Seanglass Rd, Beaumont, Dublin, Ireland!!
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Guest: Charles J. Davis (5683 days ago)
Jesus this is cool. But you must wonder, why did no one think of it before and how much will all of this cost? Look at the prices of hybrid cars.
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Jesus this is cool. But you must wonder, why did no one think of it before and how much will all of this cost? Look at the prices of hybrid cars.
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Guest: RObERT (5556 days ago)
Spin that shit is the best you have so far, merely for the comic value. His glassy eyed, dumb staring face is what makes it... and spinning a couch cushion is pretty hardcore.
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Spin that shit is the best you have so far, merely for the comic value. His glassy eyed, dumb staring face is what makes it... and spinning a couch cushion is pretty hardcore.
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Guest: pedro (5683 days ago)
If this was true we would soon run out of water on this planet.
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If this was true we would soon run out of water on this planet.
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Guest: Bradley (5683 days ago)
This is rubbish. Hydrogen can bond with two other elements, however oxygen can only bond with one. HHO is an impossible compound. SCAM!
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This is rubbish. Hydrogen can bond with two other elements, however oxygen can only bond with one. HHO is an impossible compound. SCAM!
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Guest: Steve (5683 days ago)
I think we need a simple physics lesson here. There is something called 'conservation of energy', which basically says that energy cannot be created or destroyed, only turned from one form to another. When fuel is burned, stored chemical energy is converted into heat energy. Fuels such as petrol (or gasoline for the Americans) are good fuels because they have a lot of stored chemical energy. Water has very little stored chemical energy. Electrolysis converts water into hydrogen and oxygen. Hydrogen is a good fuel because of the stored energy. However, the energy stored in hydrogen has to come from somewhere. It comes from the process of electrolysis. Any energy that comes from burning hydrogen will have to have been put there in the first place by electrolysis. There is no such thing as free energy! Oh, and HHO would imply a molecule containing two hydrogen atoms and one oxygen atom. There is only one way of arranging such a molecule - its called water, H2O. In short, it's anAapril fools.
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I think we need a simple physics lesson here. There is something called 'conservation of energy', which basically says that energy cannot be created or destroyed, only turned from one form to another. When fuel is burned, stored chemical energy is converted into heat energy. Fuels such as petrol (or gasoline for the Americans) are good fuels because they have a lot of stored chemical energy. Water has very little stored chemical energy. Electrolysis converts water into hydrogen and oxygen. Hydrogen is a good fuel because of the stored energy. However, the energy stored in hydrogen has to come from somewhere. It comes from the process of electrolysis. Any energy that comes from burning hydrogen will have to have been put there in the first place by electrolysis. There is no such thing as free energy! Oh, and HHO would imply a molecule containing two hydrogen atoms and one oxygen atom. There is only one way of arranging such a molecule - its called water, H2O. In short, it's anAapril fools.
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Guest: --- (5678 days ago)
In terms of conservation of energy, mass has huge amounts of energy. If they have managed to convert large proportions of the water into energy during this process then there is no reason why this wouldn't work.
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In terms of conservation of energy, mass has huge amounts of energy. If they have managed to convert large proportions of the water into energy during this process then there is no reason why this wouldn't work.
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Guest: Ruth Edwards (5683 days ago)
It would be wonderful if it were true!
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It would be wonderful if it were true!
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Guest: harley cantor (5556 days ago)
No offence but it sounds really really boring. MTV need something more interesting. Pimp My Ride and Punkd are starting to bore the hell outa me... get some new stuff.
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No offence but it sounds really really boring. MTV need something more interesting. Pimp My Ride and Punkd are starting to bore the hell outa me... get some new stuff.
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Guest: donhoe (5675 days ago)
Yes, but have you seen the price of bottled water lately? It's more expensive than gas... :-P
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Yes, but have you seen the price of bottled water lately? It's more expensive than gas... :-P
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Guest: Pokhabnik (5683 days ago)
Reminds me of the controversy over Dihydrogen Monoxide. Check out the facts at: LINK
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Reminds me of the controversy over Dihydrogen Monoxide. Check out the facts at: LINK
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Guest: Kel (5681 days ago)
This is 100% genuine. HHO is more commonly called Brown's Gas, it was discovered by Yull Brown in the 1970s. You use an electrolyser to split water into mon-atomic hydrogen and oxygen, the resulting gas can then be burned as a fuel. The temperature of the flame is determined by a reaction between the flame and the surface it's in contact with, so it's not hot enough to burn your fingers but will easily melt steel. Yull Brown received many offers to sell his technology, mostly from oil companies, but he refused due to worries that the technology might be suppressed and not made available to the public. Unfortunately Brown's Gas has never been exploited to its fullest advantage, although research on it is still being conducted by many companies and universities.
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This is 100% genuine. HHO is more commonly called Brown's Gas, it was discovered by Yull Brown in the 1970s. You use an electrolyser to split water into mon-atomic hydrogen and oxygen, the resulting gas can then be burned as a fuel. The temperature of the flame is determined by a reaction between the flame and the surface it's in contact with, so it's not hot enough to burn your fingers but will easily melt steel. Yull Brown received many offers to sell his technology, mostly from oil companies, but he refused due to worries that the technology might be suppressed and not made available to the public. Unfortunately Brown's Gas has never been exploited to its fullest advantage, although research on it is still being conducted by many companies and universities.
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Guest: Julian S.A (5531 days ago)
I have a video of me doing some crazy things with my body (not sexual). I've seen it before on Guinness World Records, but not sure if it's good enough to send.
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I have a video of me doing some crazy things with my body (not sexual). I've seen it before on Guinness World Records, but not sure if it's good enough to send.
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Guest: COOLY-O (5556 days ago)
FREESTYLE WHEELBARROW IS COOL BUT STUPID.
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FREESTYLE WHEELBARROW IS COOL BUT STUPID.
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Guest: Bradley (5683 days ago)
Actually HHO is H2O! Definitely a SCAM!
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Actually HHO is H2O! Definitely a SCAM!
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Guest: Scoot (5681 days ago)
To some of you out there who are skeptical, but for the wrong reasons: Yes, HHO is the same as H2O, but that doesn't necessarily mean it's a trick. Standard room-temp, normal-pressure, liquid H2O contains a proportion of generally 2 Hs to 1 O in various combinations. Water is usually HOH, whereby the bonds between H and O trap all of the energy, but it can be found in the form HHO, with a H-to-H bond. The question is, what are the energy implications, as this is more complex. Some people touched on that matter cannot be created nor destroyed, however the question is about whether humans can do more with the energy of combusting freed Hydrogen than it takes to free the Hs in the first place. The miracle could be that the energy required for electrolysis is less than that released by our use in our various forms of combustion.
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To some of you out there who are skeptical, but for the wrong reasons: Yes, HHO is the same as H2O, but that doesn't necessarily mean it's a trick. Standard room-temp, normal-pressure, liquid H2O contains a proportion of generally 2 Hs to 1 O in various combinations. Water is usually HOH, whereby the bonds between H and O trap all of the energy, but it can be found in the form HHO, with a H-to-H bond. The question is, what are the energy implications, as this is more complex. Some people touched on that matter cannot be created nor destroyed, however the question is about whether humans can do more with the energy of combusting freed Hydrogen than it takes to free the Hs in the first place. The miracle could be that the energy required for electrolysis is less than that released by our use in our various forms of combustion.
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Guest: Jam (5525 days ago)
That skater girl was AWESOME!
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That skater girl was AWESOME!
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Guest: moneyshot (5508 days ago)
There is a lot of stuff misrepresented in this article. This technology has existed for years. The energy required for the process is just too great to make it a viable substitute for fossil fuels. However, it could act in a hybrid form and increase fuel efficiency but not eradicate oil altogether.
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There is a lot of stuff misrepresented in this article. This technology has existed for years. The energy required for the process is just too great to make it a viable substitute for fossil fuels. However, it could act in a hybrid form and increase fuel efficiency but not eradicate oil altogether.
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Guest: Physics (5666 days ago)
This is a pile of crap. It's electric powered and water is involved. But not water powered.
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This is a pile of crap. It's electric powered and water is involved. But not water powered.
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Guest: einstein (5683 days ago)
As if this is true, please friends, don't be fooled by such a scam?
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As if this is true, please friends, don't be fooled by such a scam?
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Guest: Mr Smarty Pants (5683 days ago)
Er... just a few little things, you can't say H20 is the same as HHO necessarily because there are various ways of combining elements such as dative bonds (I don't really know tons about it). Bradley, Oxygen has two electron gaps and therefore has the potential to bond with more than one element, Richard, I think ozone is O3 unless the GCSE geography syllabus is wrong but I'd have to agree that the electrolysis of water is probably being overlooked, just like in the Hydrogen fusion experiments, and so I'm not sure how efficient this process would be. Nice idea though...
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Er... just a few little things, you can't say H20 is the same as HHO necessarily because there are various ways of combining elements such as dative bonds (I don't really know tons about it). Bradley, Oxygen has two electron gaps and therefore has the potential to bond with more than one element, Richard, I think ozone is O3 unless the GCSE geography syllabus is wrong but I'd have to agree that the electrolysis of water is probably being overlooked, just like in the Hydrogen fusion experiments, and so I'm not sure how efficient this process would be. Nice idea though...
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Guest: Josef (5683 days ago)
Hum, I don't really think this is true... would be too perfect!
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Hum, I don't really think this is true... would be too perfect!
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Guest: Matt Wilcox (5291 days ago)
Latest comment: The original invention was to make a welding torch that wasn't as dangerous as existing ones - this is exactly what he did, talk of "it takes more energy to split the water than is released" is irrelevant here. However, the car part IS a scam... You would need another energy source to split the water.
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Latest comment: The original invention was to make a welding torch that wasn't as dangerous as existing ones - this is exactly what he did, talk of "it takes more energy to split the water than is released" is irrelevant here. However, the car part IS a scam... You would need another energy source to split the water.
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Guest: Editor, Bore Me (5531 days ago)
To Julian - send it in, you never know...
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To Julian - send it in, you never know...
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Guest: Jodi (5554 days ago)
I can roll a quarter off of my nose and get it into different size glasses. Is it too mundane or should I submit it?
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I can roll a quarter off of my nose and get it into different size glasses. Is it too mundane or should I submit it?
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Guest: James (5682 days ago)
There have been people trying to patent stuff like this for years. You'll notice he has to turn the electricity on before it works! For the record there are other ways of combining H and O like H2O2 (hydrogen peroxide - hair bleach) This was used by the British space program for decades, because it's a liquid and stores half the energy of the seperate gases in much less volume. HHO could exist but only for short periods as a transition state it is certainly not stable and would rearrange spontaneously to H2O - bang. At best this is like fuel cells, a storage medium for electricity generated by other means - oil...
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There have been people trying to patent stuff like this for years. You'll notice he has to turn the electricity on before it works! For the record there are other ways of combining H and O like H2O2 (hydrogen peroxide - hair bleach) This was used by the British space program for decades, because it's a liquid and stores half the energy of the seperate gases in much less volume. HHO could exist but only for short periods as a transition state it is certainly not stable and would rearrange spontaneously to H2O - bang. At best this is like fuel cells, a storage medium for electricity generated by other means - oil...
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